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Google Cloud Is Down

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Re: Google Cloud Is Down

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Post by curiouscats »

gowld wrote: post #185
TeMPOraL wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have my honest sympathy because of the difficulties you now suffer through, but it bears emphasizing: this is what you get when you replace what should be a physical product under your control with Internet-connected service running on third-party servers. IoT as seen on the consumer market is a Bad Idea.

It's a trade-off of risks. Leaving a key under the may could lead to a security breach.

I am pretty sure there are smart locks that don't rely on an active connection to the cloud. The lock downloads keys when it has a connection and a smartphone can download keys. This means they work even if no active internet connection at the time the person tries to open. If the connection was dead the entire time between creating the new key and the person trying to use the lock it still wouldn't work.

If there are not locks that work this way it sure seems like there should be. Using cloud services to enable cool features is great. But if those services are not designed from the beginning with fallback for when the internet/cloud isn't live that is something that is a weakness that often is unwise to leave in place imo.

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Post by m0zg »

Prediction: the final postmortem will say "someone pushed a bad config", just like most of the previous postmortems (and most of the internal postmortems as well, for Borg-based services). This is the cause of most other outages in other cloud providers as well. A really hard to solve problem.

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Post by k_bx »

odiroot wrote: post #67
boulos wrote: post #63

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud (but disclaimer, I'm on vacation and so not much use to you!). We're having what appears to be a serious networking outage. It's disrupting everything, including unfortunately the tooling we usually use to communicate across the company about outages. There are backup plans, of course, but I wanted to at least come here to say: you're not crazy, nothing is lost (to those concerns do…

> including unfortunately the tooling we usually use to communicate across the company about outages. There's some irony in that.

Even more irony: Google+ shown as working fine: https://i.imgur.com/52ACuiY.png
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