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Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by _bxg1 »

DocTomoe wrote: post #39
_bxg1 wrote: post #36

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The Chinese government can order Huawei to do basically whatever it wants, and the former has so far shown no qualms about doing as much espionage, corporate or otherwise, as it can get away with. Infrastructure is one threat, smartphones are another.

In all fairness, I have still to see any tangible evidence of this actually having happened. NSA-Backdoored Cisco Routers, on the other hand, are well-documented.

There's plenty of evidence of hacking and corporate espionage; that was what prompted the trade war in the first place. I don't know what public evidence there is about Huawei specifically, but I think it's naive to assume they're an exception.

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by maratd »

DocTomoe wrote: post #37
hubnditw wrote: post #34

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Huawei is closely associated with the Chinese government. The Chinese government threatens democracies and good people everywhere with its concentration camps. Did Europe forget its concentration camps?

> Huawei is closely associated with the Chinese government. ... and Google, Cisco, ... are closely associated with the American government ... > The Chinese government threatens democracies and good people everywhere with its concentration camps. As an European: Well, so does the United States. Turns out that being assholes to each others seems to be a human trait.

The US has concentration camps? Do tell.

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by knob »

maratd wrote: post #42
DocTomoe wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Huawei is closely associated with the Chinese government. ... and Google, Cisco, ... are closely associated with the American government ... > The Chinese government threatens democracies and good people everywhere with its concentration camps. As an European: Well, so does the United States. Turns out that being assholes to each others seems to be a human trait.

The US has concentration camps? Do tell.

Did you know about these?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Ameri...

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by ms4720 »

Nokinside wrote: post #15
d33 wrote: post #8

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This actually makes me wonder - what makes them unable to sell outside of Europe/USA? I heard of them being kicked out of SD/WiFi associations, but how does this affect them in China?

Being kicked out of Android infrastructure kills sales of new models. They will run out of components. They need licenses to manufacture and sell phones in China. Even with all the problems with their IP enforcement, China is not total IP outlaw. They follow the basic rules.

They have basic rules, follow might be a bit strong

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by liquidise »

I believe the true loser in this is Google. If i am any non us, android-reliant phone manufacturer, i am planning my exit strategy. Sure it won't come today or this year, but it is vital for companies to start to distance themselves from google licensing for their own betterment.

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by panpanna »

tyingq wrote: post #24
the_economist wrote: post #12

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It's now illegal for all the major players to sell them microprocessors. Can't build a smartphone without one. "The United States last week blocked Huawei from buying goods made from 25% or more of U.S.-originated technologies or materials"

Would be interesting if this ultimately results in a win for RISCV.

Huawei may support riscv just to piss off ARM.

ARM is a british company owned by a Japanese group. Them getting involved must sting much harder than Qualcomm.

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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ceejayoz wrote: post #40
whymeiask wrote: post #29

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This is the same organization that editorialized that the very British Stephen Hawking would've died in the British NHS, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investor%27s_Business_Daily#Er... Take op-eds with grain of salt. Take op-eds from an editorial board with a record of complete idiocy with more than a few grains.

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Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by i_am_proteus »

Waterluvian wrote: post #31
ci5er wrote: post #18

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Even if Huawei handsets in Europe are not a threat to national security, most consumers would expect them to be able to run Android, which Google can no longer sell them...

It's a great opportunity for the rest of the world to stop leaning on American companies and American technology. It would be wonderful for a European and/or an Asian alternative to Android to emerge.

Sailfish OS claims to be mature and available for "corporate customers." I haven't seen any evidence past their own website, though.

Re: Huawei reassesses goal to be world’s bestselling smartphone vendor

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Post by dodobirdlord »

knob wrote: post #44
maratd wrote: post #42

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The US has concentration camps? Do tell.

Did you know about these? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Ameri...

> has: present tense third-person singular of HAVE

Not only does this appear to be whataboutism, it doesn't even make sense. By modern standards the past activities of pretty much any nation are unacceptable.

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