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Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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Post by jjuhl »

inflatableDodo wrote: post #80
jjuhl wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? I just said "sufficient populated areas". That does not mean only India. Nothing racist about it. I mean, globally speaking, wiping out New York City and all the people in it would also provide a benefit.

I think you have made your position completely clear. You first please.

Me first what? I don't get what you are saying / you don't make any sense to me. I'm glad I have apparently made my point clear. But what is yours??

And please don't pull that bogus racist card again. Race has got nothing to do with any of my comments.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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Post by nabla9 »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #70
Tepix wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They will turn into refugees. That's part of why we expect hundreds of millions of climate refugees in the coming decades.

The wall our president wants to build has nothing to do with current immigration trends. They’re banking on this future. Steve Bannon has this book he’s always talking about, The Camp of the Saints. It’s the clearest and most concise guide for how they see the climate future rolling out. (This is also why I bristle when they get called climate change deniers. They’re not, they just reached different conclusions.) htt…

The Camp of the Saints has nothing to do with climate change

It's story about brown and black skinned others destroying western civilization with immigration. The motive is racist. The tone of the book is very passionate and overly emotional.

Here is short preface Jean Raspail wrote to his book:

> I HAD WANTED TO WRITE a lengthy preface to explain my position and show that this is no wild-eyed dream; that even if the specific action, symbolic as it is, may seem farfetched, the fact remains that we are inevitably heading for something of the sort. We need only glance at the awesome population figures predicted for the year 2000, i.e., twenty-eight years from now: seven billion people, only nine hundred million of whom will be white. But what good would it do? I should at least point out, though, that many of the texts I have put into my characters’ mouths or pens—editorials, speeches, pastoral letters, laws, news stories, statements of every description—are, in fact, authentic. Perhaps the reader will spot them as they go by. In terms of the fictional situation I have presented, they become all the more revealing.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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Post by hedora »

jessriedel wrote: post #38

The 50 C number was observed in a desert. Death Valley, California, also a desert, spend 5 consecutive days above 54 C in 1913, the year it set the temperature record of 56.7 C.

For people that don’t know, Death Valley’s name is no exaggeration, even in modern times.

Going outside there even for short periods of time is extremely dangerous for some fraction of each year.

They shut the park down when this happens.

A few years ago, some tourists that didn’t heed the warning ended up dead after rental van overheated.

I don’t see how the populated areas already hitting comparable temperatures will be habitable at all in ten years.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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Post by caymanjim »

This sounds shocking to a lot of people, but it's not new or unexpected, and it's not even that uncomfortable if you have shade and water. I don't mean to downplay the risk to those who don't have shade or water, or who have to work exposed, but it's not as scary as you might think.

I lived in Tempe, AZ for years, and summer temperatures would regularly be over 45C/113F. I walked or biked four miles to work in that. There were a few days when it hit 50C/122F, and while you didn't want to be exposed to the sun for long, it was tolerable. Low humidity makes a huge difference in what you can put up with.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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Post by akashakya »

jjuhl wrote: post #26

If this happens frequently enough in sufficiently populated areas, then the resulting population die-off will eventually reduce the energy need and resulting carbon outlet and things may stabilize. Sucks for the people involved. But globally speaking, it may not be so bad.

By that logic anything which kills mass population is "not so bad". Why not just bomb cities. Infact if you read it as a response to "world wars", though not intended, that way of thinking justify that.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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Post by hedora »

kabwj wrote: post #73
inflatableDodo wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Been telling people for a while, if we think the amount of refugees from our wars is bad, just wait till you see the number arriving due to the fuel we burn. Though given our reaction to the current wave of refugees, we will blame the refugees for their own predicament and probably George Soros, as is tradition, long before we accept any blame ourselves.

Or we will simply not accept the refugees. As you said at current numbers it’s been really bad. At much higher numbers it will simply be a better and more popular option to close the border.

What happens when the coasts stop accepting refugees from the red states?

This will certainly happen in a scenario where there are massive refugee populations elsewhere in the world.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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Post by awakeasleep »

caymanjim wrote: post #94

This sounds shocking to a lot of people, but it's not new or unexpected, and it's not even that uncomfortable if you have shade and water. I don't mean to downplay the risk to those who don't have shade or water, or who have to work exposed, but it's not as scary as you might think. I lived in Tempe, AZ for years, and summer temperatures would regularly be over 45C/113F. I walked or biked four miles to work in that.…

You're missing the effect of humidity.

Our bodies rely on evaporative cooling to reduce heat, which is why we sweat and why you need water.

When humidity is above 50% evaporative cooling stops working, so temperatures slightly above our body temperature become lethal.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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Post by inflatableDodo »

tinus_hn wrote: post #84
inflatableDodo wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now, this is what I generally qualify as the "that's not racist, it's bigoted" pedant's defense. And it really doesn't carry quite as much weight as people apparently think it does.

If you think that is the answer, call it bigoted instead of playing the race card.

I generally do use the word bigot rather than racist. I know very few people who are only racist and not bigoted in other ways, so it tends to be more accurate. It also gives much less wiggle room and appears to cut into people's ego far more.

As another observation, I have yet to meet anyone who uses the phrase 'playing the race card', that has a considered opinion on that subject, or indeed many others. It is indicative of a thought process constructed almost entirely from clichés.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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Post by selimthegrim »

inapis wrote: post #57
jessriedel wrote: post #38

The 50 C number was observed in a desert. Death Valley, California, also a desert, spend 5 consecutive days above 54 C in 1913, the year it set the temperature record of 56.7 C.

Nopes. Churu is a population center. It's a district headquarter. And population centers are not faraway from 50C at 46-47C being pretty frequent.

Agreed. Jacobabad, Nawabshah, Guddu (where my mom grew up), Kashmore are all substantial cities in Sindh not too far away where the mercury usually gets this high in summer.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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Post by joezydeco »

ramraj07 wrote: post #67
Isinlor wrote: post #19

These temperatures in high humidity can be deadly even to healthy and fit humans as our bodies are left without a way to cool down. Currently, they have humidity around 10-20% so it affects the most vulnerable, but global warming may lead to making parts of the world literally deadly to every human being... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature The wet-bulb temperature (WBT) is the temperature read by a…

What caused Chicago of all places to reach that temperature?

Chicago regularly gets heat waves in that range, but moisture coming from the plains via heavy rains and/or agricultural crops contributes to the humidity levels which really are the killer.

A temperature inversion also happened that July, so no wind and pollution stagnated over the city.

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