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Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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The 50 C number was observed in a desert. Death Valley, California, also a desert, spend 5 consecutive days above 54 C in 1913, the year it set the temperature record of 56.7 C.

"The thermometer hit 50.6 degrees [...] in the Rajasthan desert city of Churu." Churu has 120k inhabitants, you can call that a population center.

Thanks, you're right. Edited.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

#52
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If this happens frequently enough in sufficiently populated areas, then the resulting population die-off will eventually reduce the energy need and resulting carbon outlet and things may stabilize. Sucks for the people involved. But globally speaking, it may not be so bad.

Would you write the same thing about Houston or Paris? If not it’s just racist.

Houston and Paris are not races.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably those people would install more air-conditioners and that would increase energy needs.

Assuming they can afford the air conditioners and electricity and electric grid.

Affording air conditioner probably the same like affording warm house in cold climate.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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If this happens frequently enough in sufficiently populated areas, then the resulting population die-off will eventually reduce the energy need and resulting carbon outlet and things may stabilize. Sucks for the people involved. But globally speaking, it may not be so bad.

It's not surprising that people are unable to sympathize with people who they've never seen. I suggest you travel through India and you'll realize how mistaken you are, sometimes the carbon emission of a village with 100 members is less than a typical American household, specially now when LPG is rolling out even in the remotest and poorest families.

For the record; I've travelled in India and parts of Africa. That's not the point. The point is simply biology. If we reduce our population sufficiently (by whatever means), then the effects we have on the global climate may start to wear off. This is just one example of how we are reaching a limit and our species is starting to die off as a result. Given enough such situations our species may eventually reach a sustainable level.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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In dry climates with such hot temperatures, staying hydrated and sweating will keep you cool (or rather, keep you cool enough to not die). What happens when temperatures like these are reached in high humidity zones where sweat just sticks? Will we simply have entire communities that lack air conditioning dying off?

They will turn into refugees. That's part of why we expect hundreds of millions of climate refugees in the coming decades.

Been telling people for a while, if we think the amount of refugees from our wars is bad, just wait till you see the number arriving due to the fuel we burn.

Though given our reaction to the current wave of refugees, we will blame the refugees for their own predicament and probably George Soros, as is tradition, long before we accept any blame ourselves.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

#57

The 50 C number was observed in a desert. Death Valley, California, also a desert, spend 5 consecutive days above 54 C in 1913, the year it set the temperature record of 56.7 C.

Nopes. Churu is a population center. It's a district headquarter. And population centers are not faraway from 50C at 46-47C being pretty frequent.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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If this happens frequently enough in sufficiently populated areas, then the resulting population die-off will eventually reduce the energy need and resulting carbon outlet and things may stabilize. Sucks for the people involved. But globally speaking, it may not be so bad.

Have you tried raise VAT and kill the poor?

https://youtu.be/owI7DOeO_yg

Except this is a comedy sketch. Considering massive human die-offs as a solution to the climate crisis is not just inhumane it's also very unlikely to work without massive extra consequences from war and other disasters.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically summer doesn't start until June 21.

That's the western definition of summer. In some cultures (not sure about India), solstice is the middle of summer.

Not even Western in general. In New Zealand summer starts three weeks before the solstice, on December 1. Each season is three full calendar months.

Re: India heatwave temperatures pass 50 Celsius

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Yep I think mass migration is inevitable. Given the absolute mess migration was out of Syria into Europe (and that was comparatively minor) I think it's going to be unpleasant. Once it starts it'll snowball as well instead of an orderly evacuation it'll be pell-mell. Sometimes think it would be nice to have a single rational world government so that we could deal with these things on a species level. Of course if we…

Can anyone guess where will the first wave of climate change refugees will be from and where they'll be heading too?

That's actually an interesting question.

Gut response is wherever is currently the hottest but that may not be the case since there are a bunch of factors that will effect it.

Good report on it here.

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/infographic/2018/03/19/gro...

Direct Link: https://openknowledge.worldbank.org/bitstream/handle/10986/2... (PDF)

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