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Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

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Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hm... Cryogenic hydrogen?

Tin foil hat time: What kind of exotic or near-future engine tech could produce a signature like that? (No I don't think it's Aliens ... if it's Aliens, they'd have the means to travel interstellar distances and if they can do that then surely they can keep themselves hidden).

Not suggesting either way but the logic is flawed. Presupposes desire to be hidden. Possible that the entire purpose is to gently assert presence.

Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

#53

UFOs are real. But that doesn't mean aliens are. More than likely a foreign country has invented advanced technology and is keeping it secret. The sightings all happened near the coast, right where you'd expect advanced recconissance aircraft to be.

The thing that really freaks me out about these stories are that they sound similar to what my grandfather (who I always thought was a bit crazy) told me he saw when he was in the Air Force. He told me he saw a red tic tac shaped object flying in the sky off the coast somewhere in Asia that caused the water underneath it to bubble, and it eventually flew off faster than any aircraft he had seen previously.

It seems more likely these are some advanced man-made aircraft it's just eerily similar to my GF's story that would have happened decades ago (maybe in the 60's? I'm not really sure exactly when he was in the Air Force).

Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

#54

"And by intention or chance, this is exactly what happened." Funny how the author is hinting that they believe the exercise might have been intentionally setup to see how the systems could handle the UFO.

Right, it's kind of reasonable to think the government might want to test their advanced radar capabilities against their advanced surveillance / stealth craft.

Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

#56
I spent my childhood around New Mexico, my family also knew a handful of scientists out at the labs. We heard a lot of funny stories.

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if some gov tech was testing against the Navy. But I also wouldn’t be surprised if we just don’t have a clue.

My uneducated, completely bonkers guesses would be plasma stealth drones or multibeam lasers.

I knew several scientists in the 90s that worked on lasers to create floating hotspots, weapons targeting, and to create artificial chaff.

Plasma stealth has also been in development by the Russians for a long time - perhaps someone was testing such systems also. The idea is to inject plasma around a craft - and also to possibly use it for propulsion in an magnétohydrodynamique drive. Glowing white ball would be an apt description.

Again - it’s all purely speculative and sci-fi. I wouldn’t rule out aliens - but it’s really the last possibility simply because the probability is basically almost zero just due to distance, cost, and energy.

Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

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post #54

"And by intention or chance, this is exactly what happened." Funny how the author is hinting that they believe the exercise might have been intentionally setup to see how the systems could handle the UFO.

Right, it's kind of reasonable to think the government might want to test their advanced radar capabilities against their advanced surveillance / stealth craft.

I have mixed feelings on this one.

The craft reported by pilots seems to be far beyond anything we're currently aware of as civilians. Of course we've had skunkworks programs before like the SR-71 and the Stealth Fighter that were amazing craft in their own right and unknown to the public for years, but this isn't making a rocket ship or a plane fly that has some weird edges. The tic-tac object (as I understand the interviews) implies significant strides in materials science, propulsion, and probably many other things as well. Is it really possible for all of that to happen entirely underwraps? Or do the other major military powers have similar capabilities?

If the pilots had just reported something like a really fast plane with an unusual design, then the US testing our new monitoring systems against the plane makes perfect sense.

Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

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post #50

Skepticism means positing alternative theories that explain the evidence, not coming up with less-extraordinary theories that contradict the evidence, which is what most of the threads here do. Super intelligent AI certainly seems plausible as a thing which could exist. Fusion powered sub-light speed autonomous drones certainly seems like a thing which could exist. Any super intelligent AI would take actions to ensur…

> We will likely never know since these things are so far beyond our ability to capture or analyze, but my theory at least doesn't break physics.

I’m not sure about that. For sake of discussion assume they are self replicating Von Neumann probes [1] from an ET civilization, interesting something serious scientists would predict we might find as first evidence.

We do now have working high energy laser weapons.

I would vote to shoot at them.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_spacecraft

Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

#60

Then probably it is a UAV from another U.S. DoD dept acting as a Red Team to test the 'New Air Defense Tech'.

With what kind of UAV, though? Some exotic one that can't easily be identified?

All we can say from the F-18 Pilot's accounts are they're 'out of this world' type of UAV!

Jokes apart, my rationale is if it is really an alien space craft then U.S. Govt has no reason to keep it quiet especially when its NASA is spending Billions to find some bacteria in neighbouring planet.

More over, 'Alien revelation' would come handy as an effective distraction for ongoing issues. Not that it hasn't been done earlier.

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