If you think this stuff is wild wait till more people hear about UAP’s turning off Nukes, with military eyewitnesses verifying that it happened on multiple occasions...
unmanned aerial platforms?
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. It would be neat if it were aliens, but it's probably some sort of uncommon atmospheric/environmental effect[1] that didn't show up on less-advanced radar. I'm no physicist, but I'm thinking something like a pocket of plasma trapped by air pressure or the Earth's magnetic field. The "flying away at high speed" effect is probably caused when whatever trapped the plasma destabilizes. [1] e.g. https://en.wikiped…
That makes no sense. Testimony from the pilots who intercepted the object indicates the object demonstrated awareness of their presence. Watch this video of a U.S. Navy F/A-18 squadron commander (not an average military pilot) who intercepted one of the objects and engaged in aerial maneuvers with it. He describes intercepting the object, flying about one mile away from it, with the object demonstrating awareness of…
That's certainly one interpretation.
> with the object demonstrating awareness of his presence by mirroring his maneuvers. Then he flew aggressively at it, and the object responded by rapidly flying away.
Sounds exactly like the historical reports of "foo fighters" to me.[1]
Look, I love the idea of aliens, but try to apply Occam's Razor here. What's less complicated?
a) An uncommon, but natural phenomenon in which a ball of plasma (or similar) is temporarily attracted to fast-moving, metallic aircraft.
b) An advanced, spacefaring race (or races) travel to Earth and spend over 70 years pulling pranks on military pilots.
Again, I'm no physicist, but consider something like walking through a cloud of flying dandelion seeds. The air currents created by the person walking through the cloud create little vortices that tend to pull the seeds in their "wake" toward them. That doesn't mean the dandelion seeds are "aware" of the person they're being pulled toward.
Consider also something like flux pinning, where two objects can be made to behave as if joined, even though they're separated by several centimeters or more.
"Red sprites" and similar are absolutely unreal-looking. If I saw one without knowing what it was, I'd be sure it was some kind of advanced technology too.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter, specifically "Pilots and aircrew reported that the objects flew formation with their aircraft and behaved as if they were under intelligent control, but never displayed hostile behavior."
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#43I hope this puts it to rest for all the doubters here. Hell, you think the HN crowd would start to get excited about the possibility of seeing ET code soon...
On a related note, we live in an era where billions of people are within arms' reach of internet-connected HD-or-better video cameras, 24/7. If ET is indeed visiting, it'd be front-page on Youtube within minutes.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
That makes no sense. Testimony from the pilots who intercepted the object indicates the object demonstrated awareness of their presence. Watch this video of a U.S. Navy F/A-18 squadron commander (not an average military pilot) who intercepted one of the objects and engaged in aerial maneuvers with it. He describes intercepting the object, flying about one mile away from it, with the object demonstrating awareness of…
> the object demonstrated awareness of their presence That's certainly one interpretation. > with the object demonstrating awareness of his presence by mirroring his maneuvers. Then he flew aggressively at it, and the object responded by rapidly flying away. Sounds exactly like the historical reports of "foo fighters" to me.[1] Look, I love the idea of aliens, but try to apply Occam's Razor here. What's less complica…
I said nothing about aliens--you did. In fact, the only interpretation I offered was that the object appeared to demonstrate awareness of the aircraft sent to intercept it. Everything else I wrote was simply reporting the observations of the pilots and naval radar.
> An uncommon, but natural phenomenon in which a ball of plasma (or similar) is temporarily attracted to fast-moving, metallic aircraft.
Did you watch the video I linked? Your explanation bears no resemblance to the phenomenon observed by the Navy: Radar contacts were observed over several days demonstrating bizarre yet consistent behavior. When an aircraft was sent to intercept, the pilot made visual contact with two objects, one beneath the ocean surface and one maneuvering erratically 20,000 feet in the air. The airborne object began mirroring the pilot's movements and then retreated when the pilot flew at it. Radar contact with the object was then established 60 miles away at the position the pilot was returning to, as if the object was anticipating the pilot's intended movement.
In no way does the reported phenomenon bear any resemblance to "a ball of plasma attracted to fast-moving, metallic aircraft."
> An advanced, spacefaring race (or races) travel to Earth and spend over 70 years pulling pranks on military pilots.
I have not speculated on the provenance of the phenomenon--you have.
> Again, I'm no physicist, but consider something like walking through a cloud of flying dandelion seeds. The air currents created by the person walking through the cloud create little vortices that tend to pull the seeds in their "wake" toward them. That doesn't mean the dandelion seeds are "aware" of the person they're being pulled toward.
The charitable interpretation of your comments is that you haven't watched the video and listened to the commander's testimony--and why not? Alternatively, you have, but you're still posting these interpretations that bear no relation to the reported observations--and why would you do that?
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#452) are the authors of /r/outside beta-testing a new faction?
3) are humans from the future messing around, then looking up incidents in history books and competing with each other who made a bigger splash?
4) is there a group of humans with so much advanced technology and science that the rest of us are just neanderthals in comparison?
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#46The heat signature is interesting. When seen in black mode, the hot center is surrounded by a white cooler-than-atmosphere halo. What could be the use of such a thermoelectric effect? Or if it's a by-product what else could be causing it?
Hm... Cryogenic hydrogen?
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#47Then probably it is a UAV from another U.S. DoD dept acting as a Red Team to test the 'New Air Defense Tech'.
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#50Super intelligent AI certainly seems plausible as a thing which could exist. Fusion powered sub-light speed autonomous drones certainly seems like a thing which could exist. Any super intelligent AI would take actions to ensure it's preservation, and extraterrestrial (to it) civilizations confer x-risk.
My pet theory is that these things are real, and are a autonomous surveillance and intervention system deployed by an extraterrestrial entity or civ (AI or organic is irrelevant) to prevent an external threat in the form of a galaxy-ending weapon. They are subluminal but such a system would have galaxy-wide coverage in at worst a few tens of centuries. We will likely never know since these things are so far beyond our ability to capture or analyze, but my theory at least doesn't break physics.
The reason I like my theory is that one could imagine humanity building and deploying such a system inductively, when we have the tech and determine the largest x-risk to our civilization are external emerging civilizations developing weapons or tech which could destroy the galaxy (perhaps inadvertently, like a misplanned AI takeoff)