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Is everything we eat associated with cancer? A systematic cookbook review

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Re: Is everything we eat associated with cancer? A systematic cookbook review

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Post by open-source-ux »

Cancer Research UK (a medical charity) has a good summary of some common food controversies - foods that are claimed to either cause or curtail cancer.

The entry on 'super foods' states:

> "...the term ‘superfood’ is really just a marketing tool, with little scientific basis. It’s certainly true that a healthy, balanced and varied diet can help to reduce the risk of cancer but it is unlikely that any single food will make a major difference on its own."

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-canc...

Also worth a read:

Bacon, salami and sausages: how does processed meat cause cancer and how much matters? (April 2019)

https://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2019/04/26/bacon-sa...

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Post by ErikVandeWater »

eternauta3k wrote: post #10
bencollier49 wrote: post #4

Wow, that was quite a read. What does seem to stand out is the danger of negative results not being published. 99 studies look at an ingredient, find nothing, don't publish. Through pure chance, the hundredth study finds a correlation, and everyone is immediately convinced that yet another ingredient is unhealthy.

The study will fail to replicate.

Yes, but how long does that take, and what is the cost of people acting on misinformation in the meantime?

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Post by stcredzero »

pdimitar wrote: post #8

At this point I almost expect an article titled "All oxygen-breathing organisms are a fatally flawed design and are doomed to never live healthy no matter what". :(

https://lowres.cartooncollections.com/doctors-medical-parano...

The SENS people say, if you live long enough, you will eventually have cancer.

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Post by jacquesm »

k__ wrote: post #12
nradov wrote: post #9

If you live long enough you will eventually die of cancer. It's inevitable.

Do the oldest people predominantly die of cancer?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4043499/

Has pneumonia and 'frailty' as the predominant causes.

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Post by stcredzero »

k__ wrote: post #12
nradov wrote: post #9

If you live long enough you will eventually die of cancer. It's inevitable.

Do the oldest people predominantly die of cancer?

I think infections are the primary cause of death for the oldest people. If lifespans were several times longer, most of us would be dying from an immune deficiency caused by cytomegalovirus. We just don't live long enough.

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Post by justinator »

stcredzero wrote: post #14
pdimitar wrote: post #8

At this point I almost expect an article titled "All oxygen-breathing organisms are a fatally flawed design and are doomed to never live healthy no matter what". :(

https://lowres.cartooncollections.com/doctors-medical-parano... The SENS people say, if you live long enough, you will eventually have cancer.

I was under the impression that everyone has cancer all the time at about the same rate the body can fight it before it becomes an actual, detectable problem.

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Post by aszantu »

You can basically dump all mouse studies, since the standard kibble was something high sugary/starchy. Add fat -> cancer; add more sugar -> cancer...; add more protein -> cancer Epidemiological stuff is flawed as well. Unless the people are kept in a closed ward and every meal is kept under close observation, it's probably not "clean" data.

There is hope though... annecdotal evidence seems to point towards unprocessed food as a good tool to fight cancer. Even better when it's low carb.

http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/meat-and-cancer/ source for the mouse model studies

http://meatheals.com/category/cancer/ anecdotal evidence, you'll prolly find some vegans as well if you go looking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tteYZfMat4 some interesting talk about the efficiency of treatment in some cancers. Might help to make a better informed decision if it ever hits you.

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