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Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

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Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

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When the stealth bomber was top secret and still being tested, most of the army, air force, and navy was unaware of it. Something flying at such a high altitude was considered impossible. Naturally, Air Force fighter pilots were some of the first to observe it, and some of those pilots wondered out loud if it was an alien encounter. No one at Area 51 corrected them. So, this could be a similar scenario. It could even…

Do you mean SR-71 instead of the B2?

Indeed, B-2 doesn't fly particularly high, this comment seems a bit inaccurate.

Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You wrote optical and IR . Anyways, the only footage I've seen so far is that FLIR video from a plane showing a weird object that happens to precisely follow the rotation of the camera and behave exactly as you'd expect an internal reflection in sensor optics to behave. Given that this is apparently the only footage publicly available from that incident, I'm inclined to discount the reports that some people say they…

I was under the impression that the camera/plane was tracking the object

It was. But the video looks like the camera software is trying to track something that's on or within the camera, thus doing a steady rotation at roughly uniform rate. In plane's frame of reference, this footage would correspond to an object trajectory shaped like a circle centered around the plane. That's a pretty weird trajectory to have.

See for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9D8dzl4zGk. And tell me, why would the UFO start rotating exactly at the moment the camera is about to cross 0 degrees, and persist through what looks like camera axis reorientation, continuously rotating at the rate about 2x of the rate camera axis rotates?

Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

#35

If you think this stuff is wild wait till more people hear about UAP’s turning off Nukes, with military eyewitnesses verifying that it happened on multiple occasions...

What?

typeformer is referring to Robert Hastings' claim that military personnel witnessed UFOs disabling nuclear weapons, e.g. https://www.livescience.com/10146-ufos-disarm-nuclear-weapon....

Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

#36
post #27

We had foo-fighters in the second World War. Not much has changed.

Agreed. It would be neat if it were aliens, but it's probably some sort of uncommon atmospheric/environmental effect[1] that didn't show up on less-advanced radar. I'm no physicist, but I'm thinking something like a pocket of plasma trapped by air pressure or the Earth's magnetic field. The "flying away at high speed" effect is probably caused when whatever trapped the plasma destabilizes.

[1] e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprite_(lightning)

Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

#37

So, in at least a couple of cases, these events coincide with the deployment of new air defense tech with advanced information processing capabilities? One should at least consider the possibility that they are machine-generated artifacts, possibly responses to unusual conditions that have mundane explanations.

or even worse - some sort of external hacking that produced fake targets that the Navy proceed to chase around.

Over and over in the articles, pilots were quoted as saying they never actually saw the UFO despite the radar sensors saying it should be right in front of them

Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

#38
post #27

We had foo-fighters in the second World War. Not much has changed.

Agreed. It would be neat if it were aliens, but it's probably some sort of uncommon atmospheric/environmental effect[1] that didn't show up on less-advanced radar. I'm no physicist, but I'm thinking something like a pocket of plasma trapped by air pressure or the Earth's magnetic field. The "flying away at high speed" effect is probably caused when whatever trapped the plasma destabilizes. [1] e.g. https://en.wikiped…

That makes no sense. Testimony from the pilots who intercepted the object indicates the object demonstrated awareness of their presence.

Watch this video of a U.S. Navy F/A-18 squadron commander (not an average military pilot) who intercepted one of the objects and engaged in aerial maneuvers with it. He describes intercepting the object, flying about one mile away from it, with the object demonstrating awareness of his presence by mirroring his maneuvers. Then he flew aggressively at it, and the object responded by rapidly flying away. It then showed up on radar at the position he was returning to, where he had been flying a combat air patrol before he was sent to intercept the object, indicating that the object had been aware of his aircraft all along.

The commander also said that the flying object appeared to be maneuvering about 20,000 feet over an unknown object which was submerged just beneath the ocean surface.

https://youtu.be/jCaruUtiPHo

Other testimony recounted at https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/27666/what-the-hell-is... mentions that the ships had been tracking these objects on radar for a few days already, with them appearing suddenly on radar at 80,000 feet, rapidly descending vertically to 20,000 feet, and then flying straight up again, disappearing past 80,000 feet. The ships went to non-drill battle stations while the aircraft intercepted the object.

Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

#39

So, in at least a couple of cases, these events coincide with the deployment of new air defense tech with advanced information processing capabilities? One should at least consider the possibility that they are machine-generated artifacts, possibly responses to unusual conditions that have mundane explanations.

That makes no sense. Testimony from the pilots who intercepted the object indicates the object demonstrated awareness of their presence.

Watch this video of a U.S. Navy F/A-18 squadron commander (not an average military pilot) who intercepted one of the objects and engaged in aerial maneuvers with it. He describes intercepting the object, flying about one mile away from it, with the object demonstrating awareness of his presence by mirroring his maneuvers. Then he flew aggressively at it, and the object responded by rapidly flying away. It then showed up on radar at the position he was returning to, where he had been flying a combat air patrol before he was sent to intercept the object, indicating that the object had been aware of his aircraft all along.

The commander also said that the flying object appeared to be maneuvering about 20,000 feet over an unknown object which was submerged just beneath the ocean surface.

https://youtu.be/jCaruUtiPHo

Other testimony recounted at https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/27666/what-the-hell-is... mentions that the ships had been tracking these objects on radar for a few days already, with them appearing suddenly on radar at 80,000 feet, rapidly descending vertically to 20,000 feet, and then flying straight up again, disappearing past 80,000 feet. The ships went to non-drill battle stations while the aircraft intercepted the object.

Re: Carrier Group in Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech

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post #37

So, in at least a couple of cases, these events coincide with the deployment of new air defense tech with advanced information processing capabilities? One should at least consider the possibility that they are machine-generated artifacts, possibly responses to unusual conditions that have mundane explanations.

or even worse - some sort of external hacking that produced fake targets that the Navy proceed to chase around. Over and over in the articles, pilots were quoted as saying they never actually saw the UFO despite the radar sensors saying it should be right in front of them

That is not true at all. What articles did you read? See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20071582
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