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Almost half of US families can't afford basics like rent and food

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Re: Almost half of US families can't afford basics like rent and food

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In many of these cases it seems like having kids may have been an ill-advised life choice. Having kids is always a choice not a right.

so only the rich should reproduce? absolutely disgusting mindset. nobody chooses a life of poverty, and the overwhelming inequality of our current society both perpetuates and exacerbates it.

Re: Almost half of US families can't afford basics like rent and food

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If "Nearly 51 million households don't earn enough to afford a monthly budget that includes housing, food, child care, health care, transportation and a cell phone" Is true does that mean those households do without those things? Or are they subsidized via other methods? Medicare/medicaid for health insurance for example. Such programs often have income maximums that households may be attempting to optimise for. We o…

debt. going hungry. going without shelter. going without health care. going without cell phone. going without transportation. it's not rocket science. it's just poverty.

Re: Almost half of US families can't afford basics like rent and food

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If "Nearly 51 million households don't earn enough to afford a monthly budget that includes housing, food, child care, health care, transportation and a cell phone" Is true does that mean those households do without those things? Or are they subsidized via other methods? Medicare/medicaid for health insurance for example. Such programs often have income maximums that households may be attempting to optimise for. We o…

I live in a poor area of Southern California. I'd say the majority of the town receives state benefits. There are also stands that give away free cell phones and service (some state program). I have no idea how it works, but its there.

Re: Almost half of US families can't afford basics like rent and food

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If "Nearly 51 million households don't earn enough to afford a monthly budget that includes housing, food, child care, health care, transportation and a cell phone" Is true does that mean those households do without those things? Or are they subsidized via other methods? Medicare/medicaid for health insurance for example. Such programs often have income maximums that households may be attempting to optimise for. We o…

I would argue that there are worse things than the sweet release of death.

Living without dignity might be one of them.

That being said, I'm not sure how I feel about having "cell phone" in that list of things that are considered necessities.

Re: Almost half of US families can't afford basics like rent and food

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>"For instance, in Seattle's King County, the annual household survival budget for a family of four (including one infant and one preschooler) in 2016 was nearly $85,000."

An $85,000 "budget" is needed for a 4-person household's "survival" in King County? Otherwise they're dying? Maybe United Way's underlying data explains this better, but CNN's conclusions don't seem well explained or supported.

Edit: What's weird is if you look into the ALICE project's website, their number appears to be $74,052, not $85,000. [0]

Also definition of Survival Budget is on that page, but the definition of "survival" is a bit different than a standard dictionary.

[0] https://www.unitedforalice.org/washington

Re: Almost half of US families can't afford basics like rent and food

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In many of these cases it seems like having kids may have been an ill-advised life choice. Having kids is always a choice not a right.

1. Human beings will always make bad choices. There is nothing wrong with helping them when they do.

2. You can't blame children for mistakes made by their parents.

Re: Almost half of US families can't afford basics like rent and food

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If "Nearly 51 million households don't earn enough to afford a monthly budget that includes housing, food, child care, health care, transportation and a cell phone" Is true does that mean those households do without those things? Or are they subsidized via other methods? Medicare/medicaid for health insurance for example. Such programs often have income maximums that households may be attempting to optimise for. We o…

They end up shuffling between homelessness, homeless programs, and family / friends. A good portion of the children pass through the foster care system and the adults end up in jail or prison for various stretches. It's a very expensive system, and people's lives are wasted even if they are not out right killed.

I’m sure many people do shuffle through homelessness and homeless programs, but it’s certainly not half the country.

Seriously, unless next week’s headline is “millions of Americans have been dying of starvation and nobody noticed,” the article has no connection to reality.

Re: Almost half of US families can't afford basics like rent and food

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It's very clear that the Republican Party is not supportive of funding a sexual healthcare provider unless it only teaches abstinence.

I'm glad you're in favor of artifical wombs, but until that happens, please note that the live ones are attached to people who deserve the same degree of bodily autonomy you have.

Simplest possible case: there is no situation in which the current law will force you to donate your organs in order to save someone else's life. Even if you're already dead, you get to control your body through a pre-registration, an affirmative choice. The anti-abortion laws require women to potentially sacrifice their lives to save others.

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