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Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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Post by Xylakant »

AndyMcConachie wrote: post #24
dmayle wrote: post #8

Background for anyone who doesn't know: Jonathan Cook is a writer for the alt-right conspiracy rag, The Unz Review: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-unz-report/ This article is attempting to draw lines where there aren't. Julian Assange did in fact flee to the Ecuadorian embassy in order to escape rape charges. That he did so because he feared extradition to the US is correct, but that does not change the original…

I think you're just making stuff up. Here is Jonathan Cook's bio: " rel="nofollow">https://www.jonathan-cook.net/about/> I don't see any relation to the Unz report nor do I understand why you're even mentioning it. The page you link to doesn't mention Johnathan Cook at all. Please provide a citation that backs up your allegation.

This should be a good enough citation: http://www.unz.com/jcook/endless-procedural-abuses-show-juli...

It's the same article, published on the UNZ review. The UNZ review also helpfully gives you a page of all articles a given author has published on their page. http://www.unz.com/author/jonathan-cook/

It seems conclusive that Jonathan Cook is a regular writer for the UNZ review.

Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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Post by SaltyBackendGuy »

AndyMcConachie wrote: post #24
dmayle wrote: post #8

Background for anyone who doesn't know: Jonathan Cook is a writer for the alt-right conspiracy rag, The Unz Review: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-unz-report/ This article is attempting to draw lines where there aren't. Julian Assange did in fact flee to the Ecuadorian embassy in order to escape rape charges. That he did so because he feared extradition to the US is correct, but that does not change the original…

I think you're just making stuff up. Here is Jonathan Cook's bio: " rel="nofollow">https://www.jonathan-cook.net/about/> I don't see any relation to the Unz report nor do I understand why you're even mentioning it. The page you link to doesn't mention Johnathan Cook at all. Please provide a citation that backs up your allegation.

Interesting that he didn't add his affiliation to Unz in his about page. Here's one source after a quick google.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Cook

Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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Post by satokema_work »

pjc50 wrote: post #20
jMyles wrote: post #5

> When Assange’s popular recognition fell, and Ecuador’s political incentives changed, the asylum was rescinded. An important side note: this is the why the state always attacks the personality and popularity of activists, and why it's important to defend personalities and people. For example, let me say that, having met Cody Wilson several times and spending several hours with him on a couple of occasions (and moder…

This guy? https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/01/texas-indicts-co... It's absolutely routine for basically anyone accused of sexual assault to find a whole bunch of men reporting that they seemed to be a standup guy. That doesn't mean they remain a standup guy when left alone around women.

Why can't they just be a standup guy that has issues dealing with women in specific circumstances? Why are they defined by that specific case and not their holistic behavior?

Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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Post by onlydeadheroes »

module0000 wrote: post #2

How could anyone possibly think this was ever about the law? When he first published "Collateral Murder", you knew what it was about, and you knew how it would (eventually) end for him. Does anyone not living under a rock, think what is happening to Assange is even remotely based on law and justice? spoiler alert: it's not!

Damm did this thread get intervened fast! My other comment got 5 downvotes in one minute, and plenty more too! Top comment is a spin-filled bullshit, probably pinned. And these are my fellow humans for whom Assange sacrificed so much. Maybe we do deserve to be cattle for the deep state.

Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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Post by entropea »

kentrado wrote: post #30
dmayle wrote: post #8

Background for anyone who doesn't know: Jonathan Cook is a writer for the alt-right conspiracy rag, The Unz Review: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-unz-report/ This article is attempting to draw lines where there aren't. Julian Assange did in fact flee to the Ecuadorian embassy in order to escape rape charges. That he did so because he feared extradition to the US is correct, but that does not change the original…

You know what this reminds me of, COINTELPRO. We are too ready to believe these sort of things. It is the perfect tool for governments.

Since you're replying to the top comment, are you saying COINTELPRO is creating this story in favor of journalism and journalistic rights, wanting to save Assange? That seems wildly counter to COINTELPRO's history.

Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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Post by [deleted] »

AndyMcConachie wrote: post #24
dmayle wrote: post #8

Background for anyone who doesn't know: Jonathan Cook is a writer for the alt-right conspiracy rag, The Unz Review: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-unz-report/ This article is attempting to draw lines where there aren't. Julian Assange did in fact flee to the Ecuadorian embassy in order to escape rape charges. That he did so because he feared extradition to the US is correct, but that does not change the original…

I think you're just making stuff up. Here is Jonathan Cook's bio: " rel="nofollow">https://www.jonathan-cook.net/about/> I don't see any relation to the Unz report nor do I understand why you're even mentioning it. The page you link to doesn't mention Johnathan Cook at all. Please provide a citation that backs up your allegation.

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Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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Post by [deleted] »

satokema_work wrote: post #43
pjc50 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This guy? https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/01/texas-indicts-co... It's absolutely routine for basically anyone accused of sexual assault to find a whole bunch of men reporting that they seemed to be a standup guy. That doesn't mean they remain a standup guy when left alone around women.

Why can't they just be a standup guy that has issues dealing with women in specific circumstances? Why are they defined by that specific case and not their holistic behavior?

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Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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Post by entropea »

onlydeadheroes wrote: post #44
module0000 wrote: post #2

How could anyone possibly think this was ever about the law? When he first published "Collateral Murder", you knew what it was about, and you knew how it would (eventually) end for him. Does anyone not living under a rock, think what is happening to Assange is even remotely based on law and justice? spoiler alert: it's not!

Damm did this thread get intervened fast! My other comment got 5 downvotes in one minute, and plenty more too! Top comment is a spin-filled bullshit, probably pinned. And these are my fellow humans for whom Assange sacrificed so much. Maybe we do deserve to be cattle for the deep state.

We keep heading right into darkness, and it is none but our own fault.

Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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Post by thanksDr »

gamblor956 wrote: post #25
jMyles wrote: post #5

> When Assange’s popular recognition fell, and Ecuador’s political incentives changed, the asylum was rescinded. An important side note: this is the why the state always attacks the personality and popularity of activists, and why it's important to defend personalities and people. For example, let me say that, having met Cody Wilson several times and spending several hours with him on a couple of occasions (and moder…

Interesting choice of examples. Cody was accused of sexually assaulting an under-age girl and fled to Taiwan to avoid arrest... Innocent people don't run. Especially not before they've even seen what the evidence against them is.

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Re: Abuses show Assange case was never about law

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Post by navigatesol »

dmayle wrote: post #8

Background for anyone who doesn't know: Jonathan Cook is a writer for the alt-right conspiracy rag, The Unz Review: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-unz-report/ This article is attempting to draw lines where there aren't. Julian Assange did in fact flee to the Ecuadorian embassy in order to escape rape charges. That he did so because he feared extradition to the US is correct, but that does not change the original…

>Jonathan Cook is a writer for the alt-right conspiracy rag

This is the new attack vector of the left: if you associate with, speak to, write about or interview anyone who has ever said anything "bad", you are "bad", forever, and that's it. The definition of ad homimen.

Newsflash for you: the old media models are dead. People publish things in all kinds of fora. This doesn't make you a stereotype or representation of the average bias of said publication. Do you actually rely on a site like MediaBiasFactCheck to determine the value of the content you read, rather than your own judgement?

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