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True, I've been saying the same for a long time. However, forks are extremely susceptible to 50% attacks, the more so the more computing power concentrates on bitcoin. Anyway, the prices of all main cryptocurrencies go up and down together with very similar trends, so I guess the crypto inflation is already factored in the current price.
So bitcoin is more valuable than its hard forks because there’s more hashing power. Ok, that makes sense. So why is there more hashing power on bitcoin than the hard forks? Oh, because bitcoin is more valuable and so the mining reward is higher once converted to fiat? Well, that seems like a problem.
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#42Look at the volume column and you'll see that Tether has more volume than bitcoin and has had for a little while.
Tether has recently
a) Admitted that they don't have 1:1 backing in USD
b) They use customer funds for investment rather than just storing them and
c) They're currently under investigation by the New York Attorney General.
Against that backdrop they've increased the number of Tethers in circulation by $400 million in the last month...
Now it's possible that they've got a load of companies who really believe in them to the point that they're eager to invest in Tether (even when there are other 1:1 backed stablecoins available)
A different interpretation could be that Tether have worked out they can effectively just print money as much as they want and are using this to buy bitcoins, driving up the price...
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#43Bitcoin has proved remarkably resilient over the last 10 years. It's clear (to me, anyway) that this asset class/set of technologies is here to stay, it's really just a question of what comes of it.
It's actually quite useful to be able to send large quantities of money anywhere in the world without needing a series of intermediaries. For that purpose alone I could see supply limitations leading to increased prices in the long haul. There are also some interesting "layer 2" projects that have been percolating for several years now with a lot of potential to make Bitcoin useful for smaller transactions.
The insane hype of the last cycle understandably turned a lot of people off from crypto, but I think it would be a mistake to ignore the progress that's being made.
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#44I find it amusing that media doesn't give a crap about Bitcoin until there's price action. This was the exact same type of article that was dominating headlines back in the 2017 run-up. Bitcoin has proved remarkably resilient over the last 10 years. It's clear (to me, anyway) that this asset class/set of technologies is here to stay, it's really just a question of what comes of it. It's actually quite useful to be ab…
What does that even mean? Resilient in what way? As this article notes, it hasn't been adopted for use in any meaningful or significant way. It's a speculation vehicle. I guess in the sense that it didn't literally disappear it's resilient, but beyond that the idea from its early days that it would fundamentally change the world and be widely adopted is gone. It's not the glorious dagger that will pierce the heart of the statist beast its libertarian boosters imagined. The governments, banks, and people of the world have mostly shrugged at it. Ironically, some banks and governments even started adopting the technology for their own uses.
It's just a vehicle for speculation and a toy that doesn't seem to have any actually useful applications that couldn't have already been done better.
>I think it would be a mistake to ignore the progress that's being made.
What progress? It made some speculators rich but is otherwise useless.
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#46HN is full of bitter commenters who have been predicting the death of cryptocurrency for a decade, and it hasn’t come true. A community that learned of Bitcoin right as it was invented, dismissed it, and missed out on huge fortunes. Well, some people here thought for themselves and analyzed the technology and ideas on its merits. Just not the people who comment on these posts.
During this story arc, I also witnessed a growing dissent against Bitcoin. A lot of it came from the media and tech adjacent people but not technologists themselves. Initial complaints were more or less ad hominems (money for filthy nerds), as the currency went up in value, the story morphed conveniently to an ecological one as the rebuttal for that requires deeper knowledge of crypto and an acknowledgement of the energy consumption used to secure regular money.
Now you get on HN and it's just hated. Passionate hate. I figure it's a mix of people that could have understood it and didn't until it was too late, people who still don't understand it, and people who don't like it due to the constant barrage of negative media coverage.
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#47HN is full of bitter commenters who have been predicting the death of cryptocurrency for a decade, and it hasn’t come true. A community that learned of Bitcoin right as it was invented, dismissed it, and missed out on huge fortunes. Well, some people here thought for themselves and analyzed the technology and ideas on its merits. Just not the people who comment on these posts.
Meanwhile Microsoft is building a distributed system on top of Bitcoin to help people get rid of passwords and take ownership of their data and identity.
The protocol is blockchain agnostic, the only requirement is a public blockhain, they're using Bitcoin because it's the most secure one.
They've calculated that when batching transactions they could give an globally verifiable identity to every person on the planet using only a tiny fraction of Bitcoin's 2MB~ every 10 minutes blockspace. The users of the system would have no clue that they're using Bitcoin, they would download an app that just works.
If public Blockchains end up being massively adopted it's going to through Layer 2 protocols like Microsoft DID or the Lightning Network that barely touch the actual blockchain layer because blockchains don't scale.
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#48I find it amusing that media doesn't give a crap about Bitcoin until there's price action. This was the exact same type of article that was dominating headlines back in the 2017 run-up. Bitcoin has proved remarkably resilient over the last 10 years. It's clear (to me, anyway) that this asset class/set of technologies is here to stay, it's really just a question of what comes of it. It's actually quite useful to be ab…
>Bitcoin has proved remarkably resilient over the last 10 years. What does that even mean? Resilient in what way? As this article notes, it hasn't been adopted for use in any meaningful or significant way. It's a speculation vehicle. I guess in the sense that it didn't literally disappear it's resilient, but beyond that the idea from its early days that it would fundamentally change the world and be widely adopted is…
As for utility: I've used it to pay contractors in Europe, for example, without having to figure out which money transmittal service is going to rip me off the least. Tons of expats living in North America and Europe use it to send money back to family in their home countries. People use it to hedge against runaway inflation caused by poor monetary policy.
It could all fall apart in a few years, sure, but it's damn interesting. Being cynical just means if you're right you get to gloat about it, but if you're wrong you're missing something that could be really important.
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#49Even a quick look at CoinMarketCap shows you that there's something a little odd about the current rally. Look at the volume column and you'll see that Tether has more volume than bitcoin and has had for a little while. Tether has recently a) Admitted that they don't have 1:1 backing in USD b) They use customer funds for investment rather than just storing them and c) They're currently under investigation by the New…
>Look at the volume column
The really odd thing is getting your volume numbers from CoinMarketCap in the first place when according to this well argued deck[0], 95% of those numbers are fake.
What you're looking at there is completely distorted as unregulated exchanges have a huge vested interest in inflating the numbers to dupe projects into paying higher listing fees and since most of the time, the fake volume doesn't track the waning and waxing of the real volume of legitimate exchanges, not only is that fake volume wrong quantitatively but it's also wrong relatively making it worthless and CMC practically worthless by extension though they do claim to be addressing the issue.
[0]https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-nysearca-2019-01/srnysearca2...
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#50Its price was kept very low for the longest time so some very powerful organizations such as Bakkt (backed by the same people behind NYSE) could accumulate most of its market supply. At the moment the price is being artificially pumped up to build momentum until enough people from the public buy into it, then its price will once again start dropping faster than gravity.
You often can attribute the exact reasons why a stock price went up, but for BTC it seems to be a complete mystery black box that even the most well-versed traders couldn't tell you the exact reasons why it went up.
For stock price for example, you just knew in advanced even from last year that Beyond Meat's stock was going to be a hit. "What The Health", an anti meat industry and pro vegans documentary film, was a HUGE success last year and you could see from miles away everything was set up for this trend to become mainstream in 2019 as public sentiments were beginning to swing very positively towards it. For BTC however, everything just seems like a wild guess as no one could pin point exactly what drives its price.