Regarding India, They now have privacy as a right. Shouldn't they enforce it?
Betrayed by an app she had never heard of
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Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would be nice if mobile OSs had a permission that let apps save photos but to read photos it has to make an api request which opens the system photo picker and when you select a photo the app gets given access to only the photo you selected.
I think Android does/ can do just that? There's a native photo picking intent, and the app just gets back a photo. Whether it was from the camera, the gallery, etc, who cares? In practice, most apps would rather have their own in-app photo grid. Nothing to do with wanting to violate your privacy, I'm sure :)
I know it certainly has a photopicker but I don't know if you have to have filesystem access to pick one or if you can save photos.
Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of
#53Hmmm... I think Chloe, and anyone in her situation, could use a prefix when they call to not show the number at recipients phone. I think it is #31# Will improve the situation somewhat
And how would anybody call Chloe, if she cannot tell her number to anyone?
Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of
#54This article focuses on the problems that truecaller poses for 'non-users". As a non-user of truecaller in India myself, I find myself in the minority. It seems I get none of the benefits (improved spam filtering, the chance to see who is calling me), and in the 'prisoners dilemma' sense, it appears I would loose nothing by installing it, because they already have my contact information. However, this is only half th…
If you're a non-user and do not wish your information to appear on the app, you can unlist your number here - https://www.truecaller.com/unlisting Though I do not agree with the method where as a non-user I need to manually opt-out of the service, it does seem to work. My number is no longer visible on the app.
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Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of
#55They are one of the most dangerous companies today, the EU parliament
should take a look into them.
Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of
#56I regularly get calls on my iphone now that say (maybe: Jane Doe) under the name, and they are usually correct. Often they are recruiters, or lawyers, or people that I imagine have their phone number publicized on the web. But I'm not sure I've read where apple is getting this info (or perhaps it is a carrier thing?)
Settings -> Phone -> Call blocking and Identification -> "Allow these apps to block calls and provide caller id"
You can add phone book apps there. Seems to be an iOS 12 feature, it wasn't there before.
Otherwise it will just use your contacts.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
True, but for edgecases with no alternative means of contact, there could be other simple solutions. In the articles instance, Chloe could in the future register that sim, and then immediately tag it as Chloe Sullivan on TrueCaller(or whatever app they use in the country in question). Problem solved. Ta-da. There are solutions other than proposing regulations or limitations on apps that benefit waay more people than…
So you're suggesting that it's a user's responsibility to proactively register their number with every single third party caller ID service that exists and ever will exist? And you consider that a "simple solution"? It does not seem unreasonable for a service like TrueCaller to notify people that user-generated information about them is being irrevocably added to a globally public repository.
All I'm suggesting is that if a particular user is concerned about their safety, I would suggest they take steps to insure it.
But if one wants to push for regulation to prevent the emergence of apps like TrueCaller, then perhaps we can start regulating robo-calls and sales calls more effectively? Then no one would need to install apps like TrueCaller in the first place.
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#58What are the limits to what one is entitled to learn or ask about a caller? I get a call from 555-1234. Is it ok for me to ask a friend, hey, recognize this number? Is it ok for me to ask twitter, hey, I got a call from this number, should I call them back?
Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of
#59This article focuses on the problems that truecaller poses for 'non-users". As a non-user of truecaller in India myself, I find myself in the minority. It seems I get none of the benefits (improved spam filtering, the chance to see who is calling me), and in the 'prisoners dilemma' sense, it appears I would loose nothing by installing it, because they already have my contact information. However, this is only half th…
If you're a non-user and do not wish your information to appear on the app, you can unlist your number here - https://www.truecaller.com/unlisting Though I do not agree with the method where as a non-user I need to manually opt-out of the service, it does seem to work. My number is no longer visible on the app.
Unlisting does not mean that the info is removed.
If they have full access on anyone having installed the app, it means they also have mined the conversations with your contacts.
So they might not advertise what they know anymore, but the privacy concern remains anyway.
Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
True, but for edgecases with no alternative means of contact, there could be other simple solutions. In the articles instance, Chloe could in the future register that sim, and then immediately tag it as Chloe Sullivan on TrueCaller(or whatever app they use in the country in question). Problem solved. Ta-da. There are solutions other than proposing regulations or limitations on apps that benefit waay more people than…
I'm not convinced a single fake entery defeats the system here. The app claims to stop unwanted robo callers...I'm sure those robo callers already have tried your method to look like something else.
Not sure how their system works, but I set my name on TrueCaller and that's how it displays to others. I suppose of all my friends changed my name on their apps to Bozo, it would default to Bozo then. Who knows.