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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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post #753

I see a lot of people here complaining about firefox performances and other things/bugs. But we are on hacker news. Many devs are here. Firefox needs us, we need a strong alternative. Instead of complaining, we need to participate to the open source effort.

Sure. Though as a firefox developer, I also appreciate those bugs and reports of performance problems!

A good bug report with solid reproduction steps can often be more useful than a mediocre patch.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

#902

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That's great to hear. I keep Firefox installed on MBP for dev testing and each time do the update and see if it's worth changing too. Hopefully, the answer will be yes once Webrender arrives and smooth Mac like scrolling. It has come a long way, and I want to like it, just really hard in its current form.

Just checked it (I have a recommended setup) - it's whooping fast.

I don't know what these commenters are talking about. I've been using FF on Mac for over a year now on 3 different Mac Machines. It's super fast, as good as Chrome. May be you need to reset it or something to get it working properly. The only issue I had with FF is Developer Tools, which are also have improved a lot with latest release, and continuing to improve.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

#903

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I’m a developer and power user, I switched to Firefox months ago. What is making difficult to switch? I found equivalent for all my plugins so far.

What many others have already said - it's slower and many popular sites don't work properly on it. I don't feel like randomly having websites break when I am trying to get things done. Even on a newer computer Firefox feels jagged and hangs. Memory leaks still happening years later. It is so frustrating to see Firefox using 1.5GB of RAM when only 2 tabs remain. Quantum helped a lot, but it's still not enough for me a…

I suffered with the same until around december last year. Ever since I cannot distinguish chrome from firefox most of the time.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

#904
I seriously don't understand why people have been gravitating towards Chrome for years despite Google being synonymous with surveillance, even on Linux. Google chrome is the fifth most popular download on Arch User Repository[1].

Alternatives like ungoogled chromium exist, but aren't as powerful/stable as the real thing, so why not use Firefox. Call me overly optimistic, but augmenting the firefox/mozilla community with participating/privacy conscious users can only lead to good down the line.

1. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

#905

What I want is a "canned" installer for firefox that has all my preferences saved. Sync is ok, but I'd rather not even give that information to Mozilla. Instead, give me an installation package that will allow me to provide a config file next to it, and the ability to automatically create the config file from an existing install. I want search engines, home pages, and plug-ins way more than I need my bookmarks.

You're not giving anything to Mozilla. It's end to end encrypted.

https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/firefox-sync-privacy/

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

#906
I never Switched to Chrome in the first place. It felt like an uphill battle sometimes when Firefox deprecated the old add-on APIs, which made add-ons like CTR die.

However, in the past few years, Firefox has been improving left and right, with it's Rust components, containers in core, and it's new dialect in design. The recent improvements alone should convince someone to switch.

The reason why I stayed with Firefox is because Chrome is from, well, Google. It boggles my mind to see someone praising a browser that is from a an advertiser. They never put ads on the browser (I'm looking at you, Opera), but systematically did a lot to track it's users and make money out of it.

You can clearly see the difference in motivation when Firefox removing a whole API of add-ons vs Google removing one particular API feature.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

#907
post #658

Already switched to Firefox and couldn't be happier.

Switched a long time ago from IE and no matter what other browser I try I always come back to Firefox after a while. It just behaves as I expect it to and the UI customization feature is awesome. The only browser that I think could make me switch is qutebrowser, though the lack of an adblocker is an obstacle for me.

> The only browser that I think could make me switch is qutebrowser, though the lack of an adblocker is an obstacle for me.

qutebrowser has a built-in adblocker (based on a host blacklist) which works fine for most scenarios.

There's also https://gitlab.com/jgkamat/jblock though that's not really supported until extension support is finished.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

#908

In case Firefox developers read this, Can you please make the popped up bookmark dialog box much much bigger? Please! When clicking the star icon at the end of the address bar, the bookmark dialog box pops up. But it is too small! It only shows very few folders and choices. In order to locate a desired bookmark folder, people have to click and scroll many times. The whole dialog box is $^%&*& too small! Please make i…

Did you try with userChrome.css? It won't help with the last used ookmark folder, but I think it will help with the bookmark popup.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

#909
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Extensions. Safari has almost none of them and I need them. And not just uBO. I have 10+ of them install and I'd say 8 of them are mandatory for me. I don't care about Safari being the fastest or battery life. Also dev tools are so much better in Fx and Chrome...

Safari user here—I personally have never used extensions much (probably my own loss), and on Safari I just have 1Password and uBlock°. Besides Safari's lack of extensions I find it to be more or less on par with Firefox, assuming you're in the Apple ecosystem. The dev tools feel extremely polished and feature complete. The only thing Safari's dev tools lack IMO is no fancy CSS support for things like grid or animatio…

>The dev tools feel extremely polished and feature complete.

Much less than that of Fx or Chrome. No support of extensions means I can't use something like https://github.com/vuejs/vue-devtools, no command menu, poor debugger, no performance\memory usage information etc. The list can go on and on. Safari's dev tools are about at the same level as they were in Chrome or Fx 5+ years ago.

As for the extensions part... well, not everybody needs them, I guess, but I can't really imagine my browser without at least, 1P, uBO, Stylys, Tempermonkey, TreeStyleTabs, Tab Session manager, Bloody Vikings! and All Mangas Reader.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

#910
post #407

Ugh. Look, I used to use Chrome as my primary browser but I switched to Firefox like a year ago. I tried really, really hard to stay with Firefox. But it just doesn't work as well as Chrome. I get that it's not entirely Firefox's fault. Sometimes it is (for instance when things crash in Firefox it almost always crashes my entire browser, Chrome never crashes that way). But it's hard to tell a user to go use another b…

A lot of responses I see on any Firefox HN post talk about bugs/issues which have [mostly] been addressed by Mozilla. This includes separate processes per tab which came out just a few versions ago. The problem is that these issues have been resolved more recently vs a year or more ago. It seems many people tried switching to FF long time ago when those outstanding issues were still there so many didn't left up switc…

You seem to have not really read my comment, made some assumptions and created some straw-men. I'm not entirely sure why.

As I mentioned before I switched entirely to Firefox about a year ago. I only switched back fairly recently (Firefox shipped separate processes _years_ ago). I also continue to use Firefox daily at work. It still isn't as good, as much as I hate to say it. Some issues have gotten better but not all. They are still not equivalent (especially in web dev tooling) and many sites, like YouTube, still have weird issues in Firefox (full screen mode on my Surface Pro 4 still doesn't work right; it's like it switches to a weird software renderer).

Chrome just _always_ works. And I hate to say it, too.

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