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Betrayed by an app she had never heard of

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Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of

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once I unlist my number from truecaller website (never installed / used their mobile app),

would it stop new people from adding my number to their database?

ie, I unlist in May2019. i give my number to a new contact of mine in Aug2019. and they use truecaller. would that re-add my name to trucaller database, or would my number stay unlisted forever no matter how many new contacts save my number in their phones with truecaller ?

Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of

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There's been at least one similar app around in the US for probably seven or eight years. Mr. Number is its name, although I believe it originally had a different one.

Edit: July 2010 release, 10M+ downloads, nearly 200k reviews. From long ago memory seeing names that have been submitted may be a paid subscription option.

Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of

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The problem here is that once you give out a number then it's public in some sense. The person you give it to can pass it on, even inadvertently. The smart thing to do is to have a public number and a private number. It makes no sense to call cabs with the same number you use to contact sources or whatever. This is easily done with dual sim phones and can be taken much further with Google Voice or other dial-in phone…

> The smart thing to do is to have a public number and a private number. What's the easiest way to do this?

Use Twilio Proxy https://www.twilio.com/proxy

Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of

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post #11

once I unlist my number from truecaller website (never installed / used their mobile app), would it stop new people from adding my number to their database? ie, I unlist in May2019. i give my number to a new contact of mine in Aug2019. and they use truecaller. would that re-add my name to trucaller database, or would my number stay unlisted forever no matter how many new contacts save my number in their phones with t…

no. it does not remember you delisted, so you will be added again :(

Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of

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The title is wrong. There was no contract or agreement between the app and the journalist so there could be no betrayal.

I don't think you need a contract to fit the usage of "betrayal" here.

Well, before betrayal can take place there must be an implicit or explicit obligation or loyalty.

Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of

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This reminds me once again that the weakest link in the privacy chain today is the mobile phone number, especially since governments in many countries have forced people to link their number to a real ID. It's essentially become a ID number by proxy. However, in the case of the article, the reporter should know to inform her sources not to enter _any_ information linking to her real-world identity into their electron…

I got a free loaner phone once a few years back ("Samsung Ultimate Test Drive") which came with pre-activated mobile phone service and was very clearly re-using a phone number that someone else had quite recently actively been using.

While it was weird to get SMSes about SoCal drug deals, the strangest thing of all with that phone was opening the Lyft app and being automatically signed in to someone else's Lyft account on the basis of my auto-confirmed phone number. Their active credit card was linked to the account and I could take free rides!

(I didn't... but it was very hard to sign into a different Lyft account when the phone # was actively linked to another, live account.)

Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you need a contract to fit the usage of "betrayal" here.

Well, before betrayal can take place there must be an implicit or explicit obligation or loyalty.

That isn't the only definition.

Re: Betrayed by an app she had never heard of

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This is one of my concerns ever since the first app asked for my contacts. You could be a mountain man and value your privacy.... but if you just know someone who uses tech you are exposed in any number of ways. In the US things like third-party doctrine have not aged well in the information age as just communicating with people can expose you in ways you can't ever control.

This is why I don't use WhatsApp despite the fact I know many people who use it. To use the app, you have to give access to your entire contacts list. Even if I'm okay with them having my information, I don't feel comfortable consenting for those in my contacts list who don't use WhatsApp.
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