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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by avereveard »

patrick5415 wrote: post #666
r3bl wrote: post #621

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> Just look at YouTube denying Chromium-based Edge the new redesigned experience for absolutely zero reason. The reason is almost certainly a new user agent (compared to non-Chromium Edge) that YouTube didn't expect. Chromium-based Edge is still not stable, and therefore, not properly supported by YouTube. I don't have time to test this, but I'm willing to bet that you'd get the same result by using any indie browser…

This is a rediculous justification. Websites should not be coded to a whitelist of browsers.

yeah but blacklisting or at least conscious degradation is necessary. hit that with a game I built, had to degrade the experience on chrome/iOS because of the non-accelerated canvas element

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by clumsysmurf »

JohnBooty wrote: post #844
latexr wrote: post #719

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> Doesn't hurt that Firefox is actually a great product. Arguably. On these threads there is always a handful of complaints about the state of Firefox, mostly on macOS. On my machine, I can’t even launch Firefox in headless mode without the fans turning on, which never happened on Chrome. While I haven’t benchmarked it, for normal browsing it does feel slower than Crome. But what kills it for me is their crippled App…

On my machine, I can’t even launch Firefox in headless mode without the fans turning on, which never happened on Chrome. While I haven’t benchmarked it, for normal browsing it does feel slower than Crome. I believe you, but I'm always so confused by hearing this. I use my Mac (2015 MBP) 10+ hours a day, evenly split between FF and Chrome. Truly is close to an even 50/50 split -- FF is my personal browser and I use Ch…

I think one problem, especially if you have many tabs open, is that about:performance isn't very useful / accurate (at least for me) so I'm not sure which is the offending tab to close. With Chrome that is pretty easy.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by ce4 »

Corrado wrote: post #691
nine_k wrote: post #518

On top of uBlock Origin / uMatrix, some of the other Firefox's trump cards to me are: * Tree Style Tab: makes tabs much more manageable, no parallel in Chrome. If you open dozens of tabs, after using this, you can only pity the traditional tab management [1]. * Containers and container tabs: it's a bit like having separate Chrome profiles for separate contexts, but you can also have them as tabs in the same window. *…

I just discovered "Reader-View" in Firefox! Chrome doesn't have anything like that built-in and I've always had to rely on an extension to make CSS heavy pages readable. No more!

very handy to quickly get rid of visual clutter like overlays for cookie consent checkboxes, subscribe notifications or disable-your-adblocker overlays/popups.

Just hit reader mode and its all gone.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by CalChris »

ben-schaaf wrote: post #850
CalChris wrote: post #796

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I already use Firefox on the iPhone. I think it’s better than Chrome. Probably gonna switch on the desktop.

Is there any actual difference between the two beyond UI and sync? From what I understand they're both safari underneath?

I think you meant iOS WebKit for rendering rather than Safari. Firefox iOS uses WebKit while it used to use Gecko.

I seem to remember speed being a difference. It’s been awhile. I also switched from gmail to outlook because gmail was using headers and footers for ads which was annoying on a 4” SE.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by JimiofEden »

ambicapter wrote: post #441
pixelrevision wrote: post #339

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lol why on earth would someone poo poo a debugger?

There was a post recently about some CS OG who stated at some point that print statements was all you needed and using a debugger was counter-productive to your understanding of the code.

I wish that person the best of luck and hope they stay as far away from my team as possible.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by snek »

latexr wrote: post #719
dror wrote: post #636

It is so clear to me that we need to support and promote mozilla and Firefox. They're not perfect, but they, wikipedia, eff, archive.org (who else?) are such an important part of the Internet guardianship in the face of the monopolies, that it's our duty to support them. Doesn't hurt that Firefox is actually a great product.

> Doesn't hurt that Firefox is actually a great product. Arguably. On these threads there is always a handful of complaints about the state of Firefox, mostly on macOS. On my machine, I can’t even launch Firefox in headless mode without the fans turning on, which never happened on Chrome. While I haven’t benchmarked it, for normal browsing it does feel slower than Crome. But what kills it for me is their crippled App…

I've been using firefox as my daily driver on a 2015 macbook air for the last year. It's been fantastic, not at all slow.

I haven't tried to use applescript/automator with it so i can't comment on whether or not that works, but that doesn't seem like the biggest issue for most users, or even most developers.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by kortilla »

freedomben wrote: post #768
ClassyJacket wrote: post #712

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That isn't how the web is supposed to work. Browsers implements standards. It shouldn't matter what the user agent says.

Your company's customers aren't going to care when you tell them this. They're going to complain to your support department that your app doesn't work.

Pray tell, which YouTube support department do I complain to as a viewer?

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by kortilla »

Godel_unicode wrote: post #845
mr_toad wrote: post #801

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> experience Developers care a lot more about this ‘experience’ than users do. Yes it’s fun to play with the new shiny, but users don’t care. User experience is an excuse, it’s double-talk.

You appear to have somehow missed the extremely loud chorus of "we hate it, change it back" that happen every time any web app gets a new design. See also the saga of Instagram on Android.

You appear to have misunderstood the comment you are replying to.
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