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New Insights into Hikikomori – People Who Withdraw from Society for Years on End

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I’ve cut off all family and friends for a long period of time now, and discontinued my career/work after finally reaching a cynical point of no return a few years ago. My only interactions at this point are with food service workers at the store or coffee shop, or other shopping/errands. Perhaps this is a variant of Hikikomori. In fact, the characteristics of one for me are essentially spot on, except that I’m more o…

Was there a time when you were happy? Don't you want to go back there?

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I’ve cut off all family and friends for a long period of time now, and discontinued my career/work after finally reaching a cynical point of no return a few years ago. My only interactions at this point are with food service workers at the store or coffee shop, or other shopping/errands. Perhaps this is a variant of Hikikomori. In fact, the characteristics of one for me are essentially spot on, except that I’m more o…

A thought before you go? If you weren't seeking help why are you here telling us? Perhaps you would like help but don't know how to ask for it, or are ashamed, or have another dumb reason. Talk to someone, you obviously have something to say. Even if it does nothing at least someone will hear your story.

>If you weren't seeking help why are you here telling us?

I feel that's a very presumptuous and patronising thing to say. People leave suicide notes not because they want help, but because they want people to understand what they're going through. We yearn for this sort of intellectual connection even after the wish to stay alive has disappeared.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few weeks ago, I was really depressed. I had exactly the same thoughts. I didn’t want to leave my place or meet with friends. After taking magic mushrooms, I feel FAR better. It’s a bit strange to explain but even if I still have these negative thoughts, it’s harder to obsess about them like before. You should also check ketamine treatments if you’re in the US.

As stated, I’m not seeking advice, etc.

Ok fine. Just google Ketamine + depression out of curiosity.

I think I’m the one that understands you the most here. I still think I have terrible genes, that I shouldn’t procreate and that I’m a failure.

But, a few weeks ago, I couldn’t leave my place for 6 months. After a big mushroom trip, I feel far better. When you are depressed, sometimes you need chemicals to stop the negative loop.

Some guys, after going to war, have terrible PTSD. Ketamine was the only way.

If I wanted to die, I would at least try to have some fun with drugs before ;).

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I’ve cut off all family and friends for a long period of time now, and discontinued my career/work after finally reaching a cynical point of no return a few years ago. My only interactions at this point are with food service workers at the store or coffee shop, or other shopping/errands. Perhaps this is a variant of Hikikomori. In fact, the characteristics of one for me are essentially spot on, except that I’m more o…

Take LSD or mushrooms before you go. Not because it will make you no longer be suicidal, but because it is one of the most powerful experiences that you can achieve in this universe. To die without such experience, is incredible tragedy, especially for someone with your perspective. It also may inform you of ways you can optimize your impact on departure, given your reasoning about being a 'weak seed'.

But its really best if you don't kill yourself.

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I’ve cut off all family and friends for a long period of time now, and discontinued my career/work after finally reaching a cynical point of no return a few years ago. My only interactions at this point are with food service workers at the store or coffee shop, or other shopping/errands. Perhaps this is a variant of Hikikomori. In fact, the characteristics of one for me are essentially spot on, except that I’m more o…

>It’s my own shortcoming

Physiologically, there's comfort in knowing that your community and government has your back. Increased depression rates, mental health issues rising, and social isolation is a result of living in a Neo-liberal multicultural society. Living in this society where your personal value is based from how much you earn gives arise to a vapid nihilistic existence. When your government doesn't back its residents and its culture, and is forced to belong to everyone to appease international corporations. You can't even feel loyal to organizations that once paid you, or your country you grew up in.

This might sound like a hard left wing or right wing rant. But a feeling of belonging (either to companies, nations, or relgion) is important for many people. This is disappearing from western society.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A thought before you go? If you weren't seeking help why are you here telling us? Perhaps you would like help but don't know how to ask for it, or are ashamed, or have another dumb reason. Talk to someone, you obviously have something to say. Even if it does nothing at least someone will hear your story.

Just leaving a point of view and something for the digital archaeologists to dig up down the road. Truly I hate being alive and I hate this species. I suspect many hikikomori feel the same way

Why do you hate being alive? Do you experience a net suffering? Why hate humans? Is it an ethical issue or something else or multiple things?

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I’ve cut off all family and friends for a long period of time now, and discontinued my career/work after finally reaching a cynical point of no return a few years ago. My only interactions at this point are with food service workers at the store or coffee shop, or other shopping/errands. Perhaps this is a variant of Hikikomori. In fact, the characteristics of one for me are essentially spot on, except that I’m more o…

Take LSD or mushrooms before you go. Not because it will make you no longer be suicidal, but because it is one of the most powerful experiences that you can achieve in this universe. To die without such experience, is incredible tragedy, especially for someone with your perspective. It also may inform you of ways you can optimize your impact on departure, given your reasoning about being a 'weak seed'. But its really…

I’d add ketamine to that list. First start with small doses. A larger dose where you fully dissassociate is quite an experience.

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I’ve cut off all family and friends for a long period of time now, and discontinued my career/work after finally reaching a cynical point of no return a few years ago. My only interactions at this point are with food service workers at the store or coffee shop, or other shopping/errands. Perhaps this is a variant of Hikikomori. In fact, the characteristics of one for me are essentially spot on, except that I’m more o…

Like other people in other replies - I want to say that I appreciate you writing this in such a clear manner.

May I ask, hypothetically, what do you think could make you change your mind? Don’t get me wrong - I am not implying this as an attempt at such, but rather acting as an extension of that digital archaeologist

Thank you.

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I was a Hikikomori (In North American) for 1 year. These bits from the article really resonate with me “I am anxious about the possibility of meeting people that I know” and “These anxieties may be related to a sense of humiliation, which suggests that they are afraid of being seen in their current situation". Before becoming a Hikikomori I had failed out of University and felt embarrassed to leave my room, also felt embarrassed at my physical appearance. Looking back at it, I wasted a year of my life doing nothing but getting high, and consuming entertainment. Great news though now I work 40 hours a week and waste my time getting high and consuming entertainment only during the evenings.
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