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A map of the US where city names are replaced by most Wikipedia’ed resident

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Re: A map of the US where city names are replaced by most Wikipedia’ed resident

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Post by howard941 »

jlarocco wrote: post #82
howard941 wrote: post #78

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Me too. It likes FF 67.0 64 bit on win but dislikes FF 67.0 on 64 bit FreeBSD. The mapbox URLs aren't called on the latter. Are you also on a unix-like system?

Yep, Debian. Other map sites work fine for me (caltopo.com, ridewithgps.com).

Yup same here, other mapping sites are just fine. Do you have a User-Agent masquerader add on available? I have no connectivity to my freebsd box at home now (no, thank you Frontier) or I'd try it and report back. But for the browser dependency it's a good looking site.

Re: A map of the US where city names are replaced by most Wikipedia’ed resident

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Post by RandallBrown »

onychomys wrote: post #136
jen729w wrote: post #129

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It’s beautiful, and reminds me of an idea that I had ... hint ... hint. I live in Melbourne, Australia. Idle Googling led me to the discovery that someone had rated – as in on Maps, with stars – a tram stop. A municipal function, a concrete slab, a place you must necessarily and unavoidably go if you want a tram. Rated. People! Crazy. So I want a map that, at the level of ‘Melbourne’, aggregates the Google review for…

That would probably just end up being a map of economic conditions in any given section of town. The seedy parts will be lower rated overall (even if there's a highly rated ethnic food joint or whatever), while the swanky parts will have nicer things. That's my guess, although I think you should still do it, because I might be totally wrong. And interesting patterns might still appear even if I'm right.

Even if it is just a map of economic conditions, that's a useful thing to have.

I could imagine it being a great way to find "diamonds in the rough" too where certain places are much higher rated than the places around them.

Re: A map of the US where city names are replaced by most Wikipedia’ed resident

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Post by stirner »

jen729w wrote: post #129
danielsf wrote: post #119

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OP here. This idea was from looking at this map. https://www.wearedorothy.com/collections/music/products/u-s-...

It’s beautiful, and reminds me of an idea that I had ... hint ... hint. I live in Melbourne, Australia. Idle Googling led me to the discovery that someone had rated – as in on Maps, with stars – a tram stop. A municipal function, a concrete slab, a place you must necessarily and unavoidably go if you want a tram. Rated. People! Crazy. So I want a map that, at the level of ‘Melbourne’, aggregates the Google review for…

> Ultimately I suppose you’d be able to zoom out to the world and see its Google review score.

“Music, a mode of creative expression consisting of sound and silence expressed through time, was given a 6.8 out of 10 rating in an review published Monday on Pitchfork Media, a well-known music-criticism website.” [1]

[1] https://entertainment.theonion.com/pitchfork-gives-music-6-8...

Re: A map of the US where city names are replaced by most Wikipedia’ed resident

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Post by schoen »

danielsf wrote: post #119
pizza wrote: post #105

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I would bet you probably come up with a really good idea about once a week, and that's being conservative. The trick is just to store them in some always-accessible note taking app (e.g. Evernote, OneNote, Apple's Notes app) as soon as they come to you (i.e. in the middle of a totally unrelated lecture), and accumulate them over a long period of time (talking years here).

OP here. This idea was from looking at this map. https://www.wearedorothy.com/collections/music/products/u-s-...

Huh, it looks like the author of that older map might not have realized that "Pennsylvania 6-5000" is about the telephone number of a hotel in New York City (whose telephone exchange was named after Pennsylvania Station, which was named after the Pennsylvania Railroad, which was named after the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_6-5000_(song)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PEnnsylvania_6-5000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_Pennsylvania

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Station_(1910%E2%...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_Railroad

Re: A map of the US where city names are replaced by most Wikipedia’ed resident

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Post by slm_HN »

rmason wrote: post #138
slm_HN wrote: post #133

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East Lansing is best known as the home of Michigan State University which is best known as the school that harbored Larry Nassar while he molested hundreds of american gymnasts. Who wants to be associated with that?

Larry Nassar is decidedly bad. But you've lost all sense of perspective if you think he defines the place. Or you're a hyper-partisan Wolverine fan; I'll just name one thing that came out of MSU and that the cancer drug Cisplatin. It's saved millions of lives and is known as the gold standard of cancer drugs. I could easily name hundreds more with more impact than Larry Nassar. https://msutoday.msu.edu/feature/2018/d…

I didn't cherry pick Larry Nassar to make MSU look bad, it was just the first news story from Google when I googled Michigan State University.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2019/05/29/fears-about-a...

Re: A map of the US where city names are replaced by most Wikipedia’ed resident

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Post by School-Cotton »

mehrdadn wrote: post #134
School-Cotton wrote: post #125

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Another point is that in some parts of the country the concept of “city” breaks down. There is basically no meaningful difference between being from suburban neighborhoods of Glendale, AZ and nearby suburban neighborhoods of Phoenix. (People who are too young to be dealing with water bills, garbage collection, etc. often don’t even know which one they live in). Even the US Postal Service doesn’t necessarily respect l…

> Even the US Postal Service doesn’t necessarily respect local political boundaries. I grew up in Phoenix, close to the Glendale border, and my address said “Glendale, AZ”. Oh what the heck! How does that even work? So the official city you live in is not the city that USPS considers you to live in? If a federal form asks you what city you live in, what do you put down (without committing perjury if there is such a r…

Well, not everyone even lives in an incorporated city or town. Rural areas are usually not part of them, for example. So I don't think there are any federal forms that would ask you that. As far as I know they just ask for your address.

For example, the form to apply for a passport is here: https://eforms.state.gov/Forms/ds11.pdf . The only place it asks for city is as part of the mailing address.

In general, the ways individual states decide to divide up their local administration are just not something the federal government cares about. Arizona could decide tomorrow to abolish all its cities and counties and just administer everything centrally, and they'd be perfectly allowed to do that under federal law.

Another example of federal institutions not matching local ones is court districts. The Southern District of New York (i.e., of New York State) contains part of NYC. The Eastern District contains a different part, and also land that is not part of NYC.

Re: A map of the US where city names are replaced by most Wikipedia’ed resident

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Post by School-Cotton »

funkymike wrote: post #140
mehrdadn wrote: post #134

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> Even the US Postal Service doesn’t necessarily respect local political boundaries. I grew up in Phoenix, close to the Glendale border, and my address said “Glendale, AZ”. Oh what the heck! How does that even work? So the official city you live in is not the city that USPS considers you to live in? If a federal form asks you what city you live in, what do you put down (without committing perjury if there is such a r…

Where I am from cities cannot legally cross county boundaries. But the people who live just across the county line still have a postal address with the name of the city because doing anything else would not make sense on a practical level. In fact I'm not sure if they are technically in a city at all.

Cities can cross county boundaries in some states, though -- NYC, for example, contains five counties within its city borders.

Re: A map of the US where city names are replaced by most Wikipedia’ed resident

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Post by dragonwriter »

mehrdadn wrote: post #134
School-Cotton wrote: post #125

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Another point is that in some parts of the country the concept of “city” breaks down. There is basically no meaningful difference between being from suburban neighborhoods of Glendale, AZ and nearby suburban neighborhoods of Phoenix. (People who are too young to be dealing with water bills, garbage collection, etc. often don’t even know which one they live in). Even the US Postal Service doesn’t necessarily respect l…

> Even the US Postal Service doesn’t necessarily respect local political boundaries. I grew up in Phoenix, close to the Glendale border, and my address said “Glendale, AZ”. Oh what the heck! How does that even work? So the official city you live in is not the city that USPS considers you to live in? If a federal form asks you what city you live in, what do you put down (without committing perjury if there is such a r…

> So the official city you live in is not the city that USPS considers you to live in?

Postal addresses have to do with mail delivery and are only loosely associated with political geography.

> If a federal form asks you what city you live in, what do you put down (without committing perjury if there is such a risk)?

The city you live in. See above regarding postal addresses and political geography.

> And how does one figure out what city they officially live in then?

The high latency method is “register to vote, then find out what city’s elections you get ballot material for”. Election authorities can reliably translate postal addresses to electoral districts. (The mappings are publicly available and you can use them directly, but it takes more research to locate them.)

Re: A map of the US where city names are replaced by most Wikipedia’ed resident

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Post by jessriedel »

0xffff2 wrote: post #120
jessriedel wrote: post #21

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Your two version aren't in conflict, although the first is ambiguous. Are you just clarifying that that, in the first version, "in this city" is supposed to be a modifier of "person" rather than the "wikipediaed"?

They are totally different things. The first is influenced solely by Wikipedia users in the city in question. The second is influenced by a combination of all Wikipedia users and Wikipedia's association of people with the city in question.

I understand the claim but I'm disputing it

Re: A map of the US where city names are replaced by most Wikipedia’ed resident

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Post by mehrdadn »

dragonwriter wrote: post #148
mehrdadn wrote: post #134

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> Even the US Postal Service doesn’t necessarily respect local political boundaries. I grew up in Phoenix, close to the Glendale border, and my address said “Glendale, AZ”. Oh what the heck! How does that even work? So the official city you live in is not the city that USPS considers you to live in? If a federal form asks you what city you live in, what do you put down (without committing perjury if there is such a r…

> So the official city you live in is not the city that USPS considers you to live in? Postal addresses have to do with mail delivery and are only loosely associated with political geography. > If a federal form asks you what city you live in, what do you put down (without committing perjury if there is such a risk)? The city you live in. See above regarding postal addresses and political geography. > And how does on…

Wow, I see. Thanks!
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