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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by slacka »

kakkksaknmdm wrote: post #647
slacka wrote: post #624

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First of all, we have no evidence that your Edge example was intentional. In fact, we have evidence to the contrary as they fixed it within hours of it being reported [1] Now as far as your hypothetical, sure they can, but I use all of those services, YouTube, Gmail, Maps, ... on Chromium every day and they do not block nor have they ever blocked any of them. [1] https://twitter.com/addyosmani/status/1133782407419613…

Wrong! Google deliberately blocked Edge, see the tweet here for proof: https://twitter.com/sinclairinator/status/113344983464663859...

Wrong! You didn't read the full thread:

> And it may even be a quick ‘n dirty deliberate hack to exclude Chredge this way, just so it doesn’t pollute their telemetry / testing of new website features.

That test proves nothing without seeing the Google's code. Feature detection is incredibly slow, requiring JS and multiple round trips. Whereas user agent strings are instantaneous.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by afiori »

gruez wrote: post #476
marricks wrote: post #15

Google will keep locking down Chrome and using corporate talk to hand wave it away, only recourse is to leave. First it’s “sign in” with obtuse ways to turn it off. Then block Adblocking, once again with obtuse ways to disable... the end goal is pretty obvious, get the majority of Chrome users to turn on ads and tie their real names to their Chrome browser. Of course let “power users” (who’ll turn that crap off anywa…

>your new browser won't work with most internet video "most internet video"... by what metric? Hours watched? Catalog size? I find it unlikely that DRM videos outnumber non-DRM videos by any reasonable metric.

If I fail to watch a video I want to watch once a day is already too much

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by DiseasedBadger »

gonational wrote: post #555

Firefox banned Dissenter[1], a plug-in that did nothing nefarious - only enables browser users of the plug-in to chat / comment with each other about webpages. They did this for political reasons. Regardless of what kind of trash talk takes place on Dissenter, the point is that nobody is forced to use it. My point: neither Google nor Mozilla should be trusted and both seek to be your totalitarian Internet overlord. 1…

Use WaterFox or Pale Moon. XULExtensions are fantastic.

I have darkmode on, on the entire internet. Had it for eternities before ff, thanks to an extension. Great reader extension. Even ported (to webextensions) extensions still have great versions for xul.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by johnny22 »

ChikkaChiChi wrote: post #612
bastih wrote: post #525

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Container tabs have made my life much easier, as I'm managing a number of Amazon accounts, and being able to do that side-by-side is a life-saver.

You can do the same thing with Profiles in Chromium-based browsers, without having to add an extension.

firefox has profiles too. Profiles aren't the same as containers tabs though. They are also built in, not addons.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by rkangel »

ProAm wrote: post #381
rkangel wrote: post #357

What is the actual performance story these days? Last time I tried Firefox (soon after they were making a fuss about Quantum) I was fairly disappointed. I'm including performance of the Android browser here (because they work in concert as far as I'm concerned). Also, what pain am I going to hit with DRM and online video? I use the usual suspects - Amazon, Netflix, Youtube.

FF is fast on the desktop but still very slow on android. Im not sure what the difference is, but Ive switched to using a chrome fork on android and FFon my desktop and am pretty pleased. Why do you say they work in concert?

> Why do you say they work in concert?

Because I want my saved passwords, bookmarks and recent tabs shared between the two.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by jrochkind1 »

nostalgk wrote: post #263
jrochkind1 wrote: post #243

If you forked Chrome, how hard would it be to change it do DRM'd video however Firefox does? I'm not saying forking Chrome would be easy, it's complicated software, I think it would require a lot of labor to keep it competitive over the long term, which is the real barrier. But I'm not sure if the DRM is an insurmountable barrier, Firefox plays that same video somehow , it should be at least theoretically possible to…

Mozilla uses Google Widevine as well, I believe. The path forward is to license Widevine from Google, and they've already shut down other FOSS projects by refusing to give them licenses.

Wait, Mozilla has a license to a Google product to display video... that they won't give to any other OSS projects?

Like, if you forked FF, you wouldn't be able to display video either?

That is EVIL.

It means effectively there will never be another open source browser that can be display commercial-popular video, Firefox is IT, they have an open source monopoly? Oh geez.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by soulofmischief »

GhostVII wrote: post #413
tlb wrote: post #258

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Please don't normalize that behavior. Not having regular backups is dumb, like not wearing seatbelts. On a Mac it's so easy -- just plug a drive in once a week or so and Time Machine does its thing. A 1 TB hard drive is cheap, far less than the value of a lost day.

I don't backup my computer anymore because everything I have is in the cloud anyways. I have a git repository with all of my scripts, a command I run to set up my system from scratch, and all of my files in Google Drive/Github. Any Steam games I play either automatically store my information online, or aren't important enough for me to worry about. The only think I would loose if my computer broke was my downloads fo…

Do you back up your browser profile? Are there parts of it which change infrequently enough to version control?

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by ChikkaChiChi »

johnny22 wrote: post #684
ChikkaChiChi wrote: post #612

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can do the same thing with Profiles in Chromium-based browsers, without having to add an extension.

firefox has profiles too. Profiles aren't the same as containers tabs though. They are also built in, not addons.

Correct. Firefox's profiles are not the same as Chromium.

What benefit do the Firefox containers have that Chromium profiles are missing?

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by alpaca128 »

xvf22 wrote: post #658

Already switched to Firefox and couldn't be happier.

Switched a long time ago from IE and no matter what other browser I try I always come back to Firefox after a while. It just behaves as I expect it to and the UI customization feature is awesome.

The only browser that I think could make me switch is qutebrowser, though the lack of an adblocker is an obstacle for me.

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