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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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If you use an iOS device, Safari is awesome. The integration between all your hardware devices syncing passwords, tabs, bookmarks, reading list, etc. kicks ass. That’s all not to mention its excellent built-in privacy features and that it’s really really fast.

I would argue experiences of alternative browsers on iOS is somewhat artificially hindered... Not that I'm saying Safari is bad browser, but on iOS you can't really set other browser as your default browser, browsers can't use their own engines, etc. etc.

3rd party browsers are not able to make use of the Content Blocking supported by iOS, which is a major sacrifice to use Chrome.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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How's the dev tools (aka whatever the equivalent of Chrome "dev tools" is)? As a web dev, the main reason I don't switch is I know how to use Chrome dev tools, and hate spending time I could be producing code instead learning new tools for something like this. But eventually I'll get myself to (prob to FF rather than safari, as long as I'm switching).

I prefer Safari's dev tools, actually. The UX is far better, Chrome's dev tools UI is so incredibly cluttered. The only area I find where Chrome's dev tools outshines Safari's is JS profiling — that tree chart graph is pretty useful. The other 95% of the time I stay in Safari.

I agree, I love profiling JS in Chrome. I'd switch to FF or Safari in an instant if they compared. Last time I checked, they were both nowhere near as easy or productive to use.

The other day I had to shut down a chrome tab that was utilizing 1.5 gigs of ram though. That's crazy. There's definitely no perfect browser.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Google will keep locking down Chrome and using corporate talk to hand wave it away, only recourse is to leave. First it’s “sign in” with obtuse ways to turn it off. Then block Adblocking, once again with obtuse ways to disable... the end goal is pretty obvious, get the majority of Chrome users to turn on ads and tie their real names to their Chrome browser. Of course let “power users” (who’ll turn that crap off anywa…

You know what's horrifying about the idea of "just fork Chrome"? Google can still hurt you by blocking your browser's access to their prime properties (YouTube, Gmail, Maps, etc). Just look at YouTube denying Chromium-based Edge the new redesigned experience for absolutely zero reason.

All the more reason to stop using those "prime" properties...

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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I tried it out, but honestly it didn't help. Dealing with 300+ tabs at a time, it just made hierarchical resolution a total mess. I don't need to know the physical location of my tab. That's what the address bar and Ctrl+Tab are for.

Huh. Tree Style Tabs has millions of happy users. And if you type in the address bar FF will match against open tab names and urls, and let you switch to them.

>And if you type in the address bar FF will match against open tab names and urls, and let you switch to them.

Something that Chrome also has.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Firefox banned Dissenter[1], a plug-in that did nothing nefarious - only enables browser users of the plug-in to chat / comment with each other about webpages.

They did this for political reasons. Regardless of what kind of trash talk takes place on Dissenter, the point is that nobody is forced to use it.

My point: neither Google nor Mozilla should be trusted and both seek to be your totalitarian Internet overlord.

1. https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/36490/firefox-and-chrome-ban...

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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I finally made the switch a few months ago. I have no regrets. I used to use Firefox back in the windows XP days before chrome even existed, but since Chrome came out I've been sort of stuck in it largely because the gsuite integration and the fact that I am part of 7 different google organizations that I have to juggle.

What killed chrome for me is the gradually failing linux support. Had a persistent bug on all my linux machines with chrome (and chromium) would only update the view if the mouse is moving. I actually put up with that for a few months before I switched to FF.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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I don't understand why Mac users use Chrome. Safari seems to be out of fashion: people just assume that it should not be used for some reason, even though it is actually a great browser. I use Safari for both my own browsing and for development (a fairly large ClojureScript application), and it is by far the best browser on the platform by all measures (speed first and foremost). The only place where Safari falls sho…

Extensions. Safari has almost none of them and I need them. And not just uBO. I have 10+ of them install and I'd say 8 of them are mandatory for me. I don't care about Safari being the fastest or battery life. Also dev tools are so much better in Fx and Chrome...

Safari user here—I personally have never used extensions much (probably my own loss), and on Safari I just have 1Password and uBlock°.

Besides Safari's lack of extensions I find it to be more or less on par with Firefox, assuming you're in the Apple ecosystem. The dev tools feel extremely polished and feature complete. The only thing Safari's dev tools lack IMO is no fancy CSS support for things like grid or animations.

I occasional open up Firefox Dev Edition when I get a weird bug on a webpage and that sort of thing but besides that Safari has served all my needs perfectly.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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I looked up Vivaldi Speed Dial. It looks like the same sort of thing Firefox, Chrome, and Safari have where a new tab has a pinned list of favorite or most visited sites. What does Vivaldi do that I'm not seeing?

Having switched from Vivaldi back to Firefox about a year ago, the Vivaldi speed dial is similar to the pinned lists of favorites, but it's much more user friendly. You can customize how many sites you see, how many are in each column, number of columns, etc. You can also change the icon to be anything you like. It certainly wasn't a dealbreaker for me personally, and as you said, pinned favorites serve the same purp…

Did you try Infinity Tab Pro (which is free)?

Sounds kinda similar to what you are looking. It does No. of sites, custom columns, custom pictures, and custom backgrounds. It really gives you a lot of control compared to all the other extensions I tried.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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That page is just missing one critical thing: 4. Migrate my extensions. It would be great if they developed a graph mapping Chrome extensions to Mozilla equivalents. Then the user could confirm installation of the ones with 1:1 parity, like LastPass, allow users to select similar extensions, or skip installing an equivalent. There are some Chrome-Exclusive extensions that keep me hooked. That and Firefox’s Storage in…

Have you checked out Brave browser? Fork of Chrome and most if not all Google extensions work. https://brave.com/

Last time I checked Brave looked awful on 4k screen on linux Kde, may be 6 months back. Have they fixed it? I wanted to like it so much but no luck :-(
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