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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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I'd honestly be okay with using Vivaldi 99% of the time and then switching over to Chrome only to watch Netflix and the like. And honestly, when I watch Netflix, it's usually in my Surface, in which case I'll use the app.

I don't think it would be hard to make an Electron Netflix app if one doesn't already exist.

Then you're just using Chrome...

Isn't Electron basically just a Chrome tab as an app (to over simplify it?

I presume it would afford Google the same level of tracking that Chrome does.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Too bad it takes a lot more than "a few minutes" to get used to Firefox and all of its quirks. Like the fact that I can have like 20 tabs open at the same time before they start hiding themselves from me.

> Like the fact that I can have like 20 tabs open at the same time before they start hiding themselves from me. I didn't like it either at first, but then I realized it was just because it was different than Chrome. In time, I liked how Firefox did it better. You're always guaranteed to see the favicon and 3 or 4 letters of the tab's title no matter how many tabs you have. In Chrome, you're eventually looking at tria…

> In Chrome, you're eventually looking at triangles or lines with no way to differentiate them.

Chrome finally fixed that a couple months ago. The favicon-hiding behavior was awful though.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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I don't understand why Mac users use Chrome. Safari seems to be out of fashion: people just assume that it should not be used for some reason, even though it is actually a great browser. I use Safari for both my own browsing and for development (a fairly large ClojureScript application), and it is by far the best browser on the platform by all measures (speed first and foremost). The only place where Safari falls sho…

I use a lot of different platforms, and Safari only runs on a couple of them. Firefox lets me sync bookmarks, settings and extensions across all of them.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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That is great and all. Why do I have to type of the full keyword? tab completion on chrome is killer for this.

There's a better way in Firefox. In Firefox, go to Preferences -> Search and click on "Add search bar in toolbar". Also uncheck "Show search suggestions in address bar results". Then ctrl-l will only autocomplete URLs and ctrl-k will search. Once you're in the search box, press TAB to cycle through your search providers. You can add additional search providers easily.

Slightly better still not there. If I have 15 search providers I have to press TAB 15 times to get to the last one, that is tiresome. I can search amazon/ebay/npm/rubygems/mdn/etc without looking at the screen or keyboard with chrome. I have probably >10 search engines I use daily.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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I'm referring to native malware abusing admin privileges to install extensions without the user's consent, not users deliberately installing malware extensions themselves. This was particularly bad in the XP/Vista era (I know I had to remove some rogue extensions from my relative's computers during that time). If the signature check were a flag the malware would just disable it at the same time it installed the exten…

>I'm referring to native malware abusing admin privileges to install extensions without the user's consent, not users deliberately installing malware extensions themselves. Ah, so a vector that required code signing doesn't protect against.

Signatures absolutely do protect the user in this scenario. With mandatory signatures you can't get (obvious) malware into the browser without having it first approved by Mozilla (who should reject it upon review).

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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I don't understand why Mac users use Chrome. Safari seems to be out of fashion: people just assume that it should not be used for some reason, even though it is actually a great browser. I use Safari for both my own browsing and for development (a fairly large ClojureScript application), and it is by far the best browser on the platform by all measures (speed first and foremost). The only place where Safari falls sho…

Safari redesigned their dev tools at some point a long time ago and made the interface (IMO) terrible. Until they did that I used to use it a lot more. Safari is a great browser if you don’t need the most cutting edge features or extensibility though, and I believe it’s also the best optimized for battery life.

That's what WebKit's devtools look like, across all branded browsers. Blink stayed with the old layout and iterated on it.

I don't really care which one I use, but change for changes' sake is frustrating. I'm used to Blink/old Webkit and I don't see any reason to learn a new layout.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Google will keep locking down Chrome and using corporate talk to hand wave it away, only recourse is to leave. First it’s “sign in” with obtuse ways to turn it off. Then block Adblocking, once again with obtuse ways to disable... the end goal is pretty obvious, get the majority of Chrome users to turn on ads and tie their real names to their Chrome browser. Of course let “power users” (who’ll turn that crap off anywa…

The day the Web sold its soul. Such a disappointment when TBL came out in support of that. People who knew better tried to warn us, but they all got shouted down and told there "was no other choice" b/c content creators were going to try an lock down with extensions and it would somehow be worse.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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I'll bite, tell me (I already know they were acquired by Microsoft)....?

Do you think that Microsoft is just doing it out of the goodness of their hearts? And that Open Source, but especially Libre Software, is going to be compatible with whatever they have in mind ?

K.

But would you please explain "what has been happening to GitHub for the last year or so"?

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