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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by shados »

javagram wrote: post #200
jwr wrote: post #161

I don't understand why Mac users use Chrome. Safari seems to be out of fashion: people just assume that it should not be used for some reason, even though it is actually a great browser. I use Safari for both my own browsing and for development (a fairly large ClojureScript application), and it is by far the best browser on the platform by all measures (speed first and foremost). The only place where Safari falls sho…

Safari redesigned their dev tools at some point a long time ago and made the interface (IMO) terrible. Until they did that I used to use it a lot more. Safari is a great browser if you don’t need the most cutting edge features or extensibility though, and I believe it’s also the best optimized for battery life.

I legit can't even use the Safari tools even if I try. I have no idea how its supposed to work...the idea is not just terrible. It makes absolutely no sense and I have to google stuff to figure out how to use it every time I do.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by tensor »

jwr wrote: post #161

I don't understand why Mac users use Chrome. Safari seems to be out of fashion: people just assume that it should not be used for some reason, even though it is actually a great browser. I use Safari for both my own browsing and for development (a fairly large ClojureScript application), and it is by far the best browser on the platform by all measures (speed first and foremost). The only place where Safari falls sho…

I tried switching to Safari for a few months. Somehow it caused really odd beach balling and freezing of the computer. After a while I couldn't be bothered to jump all the various hoops to debug it, the solution wasn't simple or obvious, and switch to Brave, then finally back to Chrome when dark mode came about.

If uBlock stops working, I'll switch off in an instant though.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by asenna »

intothev01d wrote: post #20

I switched a couple of months ago because Chrome is just a bloated piece of garbage. One of my favorite features in Firefox is containers, which I used to have different users for in Chrome. Maybe Chrome has something similar now but it's one of the things I liked when I switched over. Haven't had any issues so far, glad I did

> One of my favorite features in Firefox is containers

I switched a couple months ago from Chrome to Firefox as well but to tell you the truth, I just heard about containers and what you could do with it. I guess I must've been living under a rock, this is amazing!

I was already glad I made the switch for the less resources being used on my aging Macbook Pro and better privacy features, but containers just took this experience to the next level for me!

EDIT: What actually triggered my switch was at one point, a few tabs on Chrome(regular things like Youtube) started causing my CPU/fan to go crazy on my MBP 2015(the last decent MBP). Instead of trying to figure out what extension or what setting was causing the problem, I thought I'd give FF a try and just couldn't look back after.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by mehlmao »

gravy wrote: post #44
Hextinium wrote: post #4

Am I missing something here? There is no article just a download link correct? I use Firefox exclusively because of the sidebar tab extension and will probably use it until Firefox dies a slow death.

Chrome's "Press Tab To Search" is way too useful for me to switch...

I switched back from Chrome to Firefox 5 years ago. This is the only feature that I miss.

I've switched to DuckDuckGo, and using their ! operators (!w for Wikipedia, !map for Google Maps) picks up most of the slack.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by WorldMaker »

worble wrote: post #198
WorldMaker wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "magic" is Source Maps. Firefox supports Source Maps just fine, it's just pickier about their formats. It was supposed to be a standard and all the browsers supported it (Edge and Firefox have had support for as long as Chrome has). Chrome allowed some Source Map formats that didn't exactly follow the standards/specs, and a bunch of tools started using Chrome-only Source Maps by default accidentally because so ma…

How strange, this is the first I've heard of this. I've never had to touch source maps config in my webpack and it's always shown fine in Firefox. Is it just specific circumstances/specific code patterns that have source map problems in Firefox? Or is it when it's transpiling from TypeScript or JSX or something?

From what I've investigated so far, webpack likes to use the webpack:// pseudo-protocol for file references in most of its Source Map modes, including its defaults, and from what I've seen that seems to be the single biggest issue of cross-browser Source Map compatibility in the webpack ecosystem (other ecosystems have different problems). Chrome seems to be able to figure things out from the pseudo-protocol in just about all cases, but Edge and Firefox seem to be confused more often than not.

In some cases it looks like Chrome takes extra efforts to find physical files on disk from bad URLs, and in other cases Chrome does more with virtual file structures included in the same bundles (the webpack:// pseudo-URLs often point to other "sections" of the same JS bundle) creating a virtual file tree from them that looks close enough to the on-disk file tree as to seem effectively the same to many developers.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by nneonneo »

neogodless wrote: post #139
itwy wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand how it's better than multiple profiles. I use multiple accounts for the same services (Asana, AWS, email, etc.) how can I manage that with containers?

In my opinion, profiles are useful for separating "who I am." Whether that's my personal life and my professional life, or if it's me or my spouse using the same computer. Containers are useful for separating "who I am to my providers." As far as Facebook is concerned, I am a Facebook user, but I don't use Amazon or Google. But Amazon thinks I'm an Amazon user that doesn't use Facebook or Google. You can accomplish t…

You can definitely have two profiles open simultaneously - on MacOS, this is achieved with “open -n Firefox.app --args -P [profile name]”; on Windows, “firefox -no-remote -P [profile name]”. Admittedly, that should _really_ be exposed in the UI somehow, but at least it means you can wrap up the command in a handy desktop shortcut (e.g. one that says “my Firefox” and one that says “her Firefox”).

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by ilovecaching »

Firefox still has the same issues as Chrome on my MBP, namely it uses a lot more battery than Safari. It seems as though Chrome has been keeping a small performance edge over FF as well, but they are so close now it makes sense to use FF to support the brand.

One HUGE issue over Chrome is that many websites break for me due to broken JS that was only tested on Chrome, including internal sites for work. Ugh.

The visuals of FF including their website are beautiful. Wish they would put that same design team on Rust, which has a website made by a clown now.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by sneak »

adfm wrote: post #28
sneak wrote: post #18

Why is leaving the only recourse? Chromium is free software. Forking always remains an option.

Here's a good explanation... https://boingboing.net/2019/05/29/hoarding-software-freedom....

Forking Chromium without Widevine is still entirely feasible. Not everyone cares about Netflix.

Also, a Chromium fork could use the Widevine binary blob the same way Chrome does today; I am not sure I understand this argument.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by plorntus »

jwr wrote: post #161

I don't understand why Mac users use Chrome. Safari seems to be out of fashion: people just assume that it should not be used for some reason, even though it is actually a great browser. I use Safari for both my own browsing and for development (a fairly large ClojureScript application), and it is by far the best browser on the platform by all measures (speed first and foremost). The only place where Safari falls sho…

To add to others points I find that safari often lags behind implementing standards features and sometimes straight up implements then wrong. For that reason I make a point of not using it.

Also as far as I can see I have to upgrade my OS in order to upgrade by browser with safari. Sometimes I just can't be bothered to wait for a 40 minute upgrade to complete.

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