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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by leevlad »

mattfrommars wrote: post #81

I like to switch from Chrome to Firefox but only thing keeping me with Chrome is its superior web development tool. One my the dev here recommends us to use Chrome because of its better Javascript debugger - something to do with the output in the web console takes you to the corresponding Javascript line & instance where it is invoked on the web page. I am not entirely sure what it is. Whatever it is, its not in Fire…

I'm using latest stable FF release as my main dev browser. Sourcemaps are supported just fine. For my usecases, I can hardly tell the difference between Chrome devtools and FF devtools. YMMV

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by roryrjb »

lucb1e wrote: post #203
roryrjb wrote: post #82

As of Firefox 67, it is actually very fast and performant for me on Linux. Every time I have tried Firefox Quantum it has been noticeably slower than Chrome. I really want to use Firefox because Google is basically evil and I'm trying to migrate from every service I have with them; slowly but surely; but I used Hangouts Meet the other day with work and it was very very unstable. Of course I don't blame Firefox for th…

> As of Firefox 67, it is actually very fast (You probably meant 57, when quantum was introduced (alongside breaking the entire add-on ecosystem).) I noticed no speed difference whatsoever when I upgraded from Firefox 55 to 66 a few weeks ago. The difference between 55 and 66 is that a bunch of useful add-ons are gone, some of them are no longer possible due to missing APIs, and I had to find alternatives for most th…

No I mean 67. I tried every version of Firefox from 57 to 67 and only 67, the latest release feels "as fast" as Chrome.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by ehsankia »

hu3 wrote: post #204

When will uBlock Origin stop working on Chrome? Is there an estimate date? I'd appreciate if someone could tell me.

Most people here already dislike Google and Chrome, and are just looking for an excuse to promote Firefox. Realistically, I honestly don't see a world where there is no way to block ads on Chrome. Right now, it's not clear what the final thing will look like, so if I was you I'd just wait. We probably won't know for sure for months or a year.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by mythmon_ »

mattfrommars wrote: post #81

I like to switch from Chrome to Firefox but only thing keeping me with Chrome is its superior web development tool. One my the dev here recommends us to use Chrome because of its better Javascript debugger - something to do with the output in the web console takes you to the corresponding Javascript line & instance where it is invoked on the web page. I am not entirely sure what it is. Whatever it is, its not in Fire…

This feature (source maps) has been improving a lot over time. A year ago it was basically unusable, and today I rarely have problems jumping from console to debugger. We're even working on a way to show the original variable names in the scope inspector when paused in the debugger now.

On the other hand, Firefox's layout dev tools, like the grid and flex box inspector, are way better than doing the same task in Chrome, in my experience.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by JoshMnem »

ryanmercer wrote: post #121
intothev01d wrote: post #20

I switched a couple of months ago because Chrome is just a bloated piece of garbage. One of my favorite features in Firefox is containers, which I used to have different users for in Chrome. Maybe Chrome has something similar now but it's one of the things I liked when I switched over. Haven't had any issues so far, glad I did

>I switched a couple of months ago because Chrome is just a bloated piece of garbage I switched to Chrome a few years ago (and even to a Chromebox as my daily driver, on my second now because I wanted Android app support) because Firefox was a bloated piece of garbage, if I left 5-10 tabs open for a few weeks in Windows they'd be using several gigabytes of memory from a leak, memory use growing hourly. Edit: I don't…

It's already fixed:

https://www.ghacks.net/2019/03/01/firefox-67-automatically-u...

There's also this:

https://www.ghacks.net/2012/05/22/make-firefox-more-responsi...

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by DaveWalk »

SilasX wrote: post #189

Um, Firefox does the same sorts of thing. A) Want to use unsigned addons to play around, or tweak your existing ones[1]? Nope, even if you allow them in about:config, you can't; you have to use a special development version and update it separately. B) Want to customize your keyboard shortcuts? Sorry, that's not safe, you have to use a crippled API that won't take effect until a given page loads. C) Want to control y…

You raise very good points. The shortcuts thing has made me miserable for years. Surely the coders of Mozilla appreciate a good set of shortcuts, like in whatever IDE they write their code in!

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by mook »

SilasX wrote: post #189

Um, Firefox does the same sorts of thing. A) Want to use unsigned addons to play around, or tweak your existing ones[1]? Nope, even if you allow them in about:config, you can't; you have to use a special development version and update it separately. B) Want to customize your keyboard shortcuts? Sorry, that's not safe, you have to use a crippled API that won't take effect until a given page loads. C) Want to control y…

Didn't Mozilla promise to publish a post-mortem on the add-on thing two weeks ago? Did that ever happen?

Not the CTO post during the issue; the follow up that was supposed to be more technical.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by redka »

mattfrommars wrote: post #81

I like to switch from Chrome to Firefox but only thing keeping me with Chrome is its superior web development tool. One my the dev here recommends us to use Chrome because of its better Javascript debugger - something to do with the output in the web console takes you to the corresponding Javascript line & instance where it is invoked on the web page. I am not entirely sure what it is. Whatever it is, its not in Fire…

I'm in the same boat - I much prefer Chrome web development toolkit - the feel and everything. The solution - I use Chrome _only_ for development.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by mrb »

marricks wrote: post #15

Google will keep locking down Chrome and using corporate talk to hand wave it away, only recourse is to leave. First it’s “sign in” with obtuse ways to turn it off. Then block Adblocking, once again with obtuse ways to disable... the end goal is pretty obvious, get the majority of Chrome users to turn on ads and tie their real names to their Chrome browser. Of course let “power users” (who’ll turn that crap off anywa…

«To those who say just fork Chrome adfm had a good article explaining why that doesn’t work: [Chromium, Widevine...]»

To my knowledge Widevine DRM works with Chromium. You can watch DRM'd videos: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/how-to-install-widevine-on-chrom...

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