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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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It would be awesome to create somekind of quide on how to switch from the Google ecosystem to something different. Mail, browser, agenda, drive, photos etc. I would seriously pay 50 bucks per month to have something different without bullshit companies like Google behind it.

50 bucks? yeah that's about doable. run your own cloud with owncloud/seafile. (owncloud added bonus is calendar ) get email service in a privacy tight country (switzerland).

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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What the heck bugs are you running into that surface as a result of chrome being chrome? I’m no google fan but I find chrome to be far and away the most stable and enjoyable browser to debug with.

Don't get me wrong-- on the Firefox side of things, it's been the user experience of the browser itself which has been suffering. Every single update since Quantum has made things worse. Three days ago I opened up Firefox to find out all of my settings had been nuked, 200+ tabs, themes and extensions lost, about:config reset, search settings reset (hello again Google) etc. I'm still fuming mad about this. I don't fee…

It might just be the nature of computers. A similar thing happened to me on Chrome during a recent update. I was using it as a backup browser and lost everything there when Chrome stopped working. I deleted it from my laptop and haven't missed it at all. I now use multiple Firefox profiles to work as alternate browsers.

If you go into your profiles directory is the old profile still there? It might have just created a new profile for you.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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post #82

As of Firefox 67, it is actually very fast and performant for me on Linux. Every time I have tried Firefox Quantum it has been noticeably slower than Chrome. I really want to use Firefox because Google is basically evil and I'm trying to migrate from every service I have with them; slowly but surely; but I used Hangouts Meet the other day with work and it was very very unstable. Of course I don't blame Firefox for th…

> As of Firefox 67, it is actually very fast

(You probably meant 57, when quantum was introduced (alongside breaking the entire add-on ecosystem).)

I noticed no speed difference whatsoever when I upgraded from Firefox 55 to 66 a few weeks ago. The difference between 55 and 66 is that a bunch of useful add-ons are gone, some of them are no longer possible due to missing APIs, and I had to find alternatives for most that were rewritten (and spend time reconfiguring everything). In the end, the design didn't really change after I removed the tab bar on top, and speed is also about the same. Which is fine for me, I never understood the slowness complaints, but I guess I typically work on relatively high end laptops (well, this particular one was only 700 euros and is now 1 year old, it's not terribly high end, but I think I got good value on this one and it's probably more than what most people spend... though maybe not HN people... yeah, I don't know where the slowness complaints come from).

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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It would be awesome to create somekind of quide on how to switch from the Google ecosystem to something different. Mail, browser, agenda, drive, photos etc. I would seriously pay 50 bucks per month to have something different without bullshit companies like Google behind it.

Just pay for office 365 or iCloud, either of them offer all the services you listed. And for much cheaper than $50/month.

I pay for G Suite personally, I have nothing against google except that I knew their free gmail account doesn’t have support and I wanted to be able to contact someone if I ever had a problem with my mail.

Edit: or if you really just want to avoid big companies, https://puri.sm/posts/purisms-librem-one-suite-of-privacy-pr...

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Firefox is back where it was back in like 2005, but instead of fighting IE/Microsoft, it's fighting Chrome/Google. Although now it has a bit more of a checkered record than it once did. Everything old is new again. I really wish Microsoft would open source the Edge/Titan engine. There can't possibly be any NSCA code in there they don't own the rights too anymore.

I really wish that if Microsoft was going to abandon having their own engine that they'd gone to Mozilla instead.

What benefit does Microsoft have by using Mozilla instead? Earnest question.

Electron, the software framework VSCode uses, runs on Chromium. Github maintained and developed the framework and they are currently owned by Microsoft. If Microsoft contributes to Chromium and improves performance they benefit in a lot of places: their new browser is improved(Edge Chromium), their own framework(Electron), and their own product (VSCode).

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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post #161

I don't understand why Mac users use Chrome. Safari seems to be out of fashion: people just assume that it should not be used for some reason, even though it is actually a great browser. I use Safari for both my own browsing and for development (a fairly large ClojureScript application), and it is by far the best browser on the platform by all measures (speed first and foremost). The only place where Safari falls sho…

Agreed. On macOS, Safari is fastest, hands down. All while preserving battery life better than Chrome, and even Firefox. PiP, swipe to peak navigation, pinch to zoom, better 1Password integration, Apple Pay, etc. are all more than just nice to have features.

However, my biggest gripe about Safari has to be the developer tools. They're noticeably slower, clunkier, and the network tab is unpredictable at times. I think it's getting better, but I defer to Firefox to do development.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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post #123

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I really wish that if Microsoft was going to abandon having their own engine that they'd gone to Mozilla instead.

No thanks. Keep Embrace, Extend, Extinguish away from my user agent.

For Christ's sake, it's not like Microsoft-written code is just irreversibly cursed.

It's corporations in a monopolistic position that let EEE happen - you know, like what Google is doing with Chrome right now.

If Internet Explorer's engine released under GPL or MIT can break Google's monopoly without simply handing it over to Microsoft, then all the power to it.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Google will keep locking down Chrome and using corporate talk to hand wave it away, only recourse is to leave. First it’s “sign in” with obtuse ways to turn it off. Then block Adblocking, once again with obtuse ways to disable... the end goal is pretty obvious, get the majority of Chrome users to turn on ads and tie their real names to their Chrome browser. Of course let “power users” (who’ll turn that crap off anywa…

I’ve quit chrome for a while now but... I’m pretty sure they have your real name as long as you signed in once from the same hw and browser footprint. Is real name that important for them? I think everyone’s digital signature is already out there

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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post #161

I don't understand why Mac users use Chrome. Safari seems to be out of fashion: people just assume that it should not be used for some reason, even though it is actually a great browser. I use Safari for both my own browsing and for development (a fairly large ClojureScript application), and it is by far the best browser on the platform by all measures (speed first and foremost). The only place where Safari falls sho…

I use Safari for non-work browsing (the dev tools make it unusable for work, in my opinion). I was a Chrome user, but Chrome nuked the battery on my mbp in record time. Safari has its kinks and oddities, but it sips the battery even with a ton of tabs open, and it's good enough that I've been using it for about a year with pretty much no thoughts of switching. I also like not feeling like I have the big G looking over my shoulder all the time.
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