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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by Hamuko »

mindcrime wrote: post #132
Hamuko wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with a fixed tab bar? Like the one in Chrome?

There's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it doesn't work well once you get beyond a certain number of tabs (the number will vary depending on your screen size, etc., blah). At some point, all the tabs are scrunched down to being indistinguishable blobs. Firefox, at least, doesn't have that issue, thanks to the scrolling tab bar. And the drop-down that shows all your tabs is, to me, a sufficient answer to the "my…

>At some point, all the tabs are scrunched down to being indistinguishable blobs.

I don't know what you're on about. I opened the maximum number of tabs that my browser window can have visible (~90) and at no point were they indistinguishable blobs. Every single one still had a favicon.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by mh-cx »

What some probably consider a privacy nightmare is a Chrome feature I like very much: It syncs all my history, bookmarks and passwords across devices via my Google account. That's especially convenient whenever I get a new device.

Is there something comparable for Firefox?

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by jonny_eh »

chinhodado wrote: post #113
dthedev wrote: post #92

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To be fair, you can't blame them for disallowing things like that. Protection against cross-site scripting, I'm sure.

I just don't see a realistic attack vector with cross-origin drag-n-drop.

Anything cross-origin is a potential XSS attack.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by eganist »

chinhodado wrote: post #113
dthedev wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, you can't blame them for disallowing things like that. Protection against cross-site scripting, I'm sure.

I just don't see a realistic attack vector with cross-origin drag-n-drop.

This one's actually pretty easy: clickjacking.

Imagine permitting cross-origin drag-n-drop and a page is clickjacked: the user may end up dragging a sensitive item in the clickjacked page into an invisible iframe with a drop point layered on top of whatever target the user thinks they're dropping data into, and the end result would be that data intended for one endpoint, in this case the endpoint that was clickjacked, is sent to another.

It'd be a nontrivial attack to mount, but as you posed the challenge, I can see it done as part of e.g. a phish where a site like dropbox is iframed in a clickjacking attack (assuming they haven't mitigated it).

I can sketch (literally) what the dom might physically look like if it helps convey the attack I have in mind more effectively.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by reificator »

AlwaysRock wrote: post #80

My issue is extensions. Firefox will never have all the extensions I use on Chrome. I want to switch. I use firefox on my mobile. But I cant do it on my desktops.

That seems odd given that they use the same APIs. I switched about a month or two ago. That involved moving at least 10+ extensions with no issue, and all of them even have the same UI.

What extensions in particular are you missing?

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by soulofmischief »

dclowd9901 wrote: post #59
soulofmischief wrote: post #51

I hope so because almost every bug I run into during webdev is Chrome, and usually I'm told it's intended behavior or a WONTFIX. With the way Google tries to strongarm standards and at the same time defy them, it's the modern Internet Explorer and it's a PITA to develop for.

What the heck bugs are you running into that surface as a result of chrome being chrome? I’m no google fan but I find chrome to be far and away the most stable and enjoyable browser to debug with.

Don't get me wrong-- on the Firefox side of things, it's been the user experience of the browser itself which has been suffering.

Every single update since Quantum has made things worse. Three days ago I opened up Firefox to find out all of my settings had been nuked, 200+ tabs, themes and extensions lost, about:config reset, search settings reset (hello again Google) etc. I'm still fuming mad about this.

I don't feel like drudging up old history but my most recent bug was that Chrome doesn't properly bubble mouse click events when some UI elements fire.

WONTFIX of course, apparently I should just use event.preventDefault() even though every other browser handled this particular mouse event correctly. Chrome was the only outlier. So now I am writing code specifically for Chrome.

Two years ago I had an SVG rendering bug that turned out to be so deep that I had to spend two weeks debugging and come up with an incredibly convoluted scheme for loading dynamic SVG icons because `` is broken hot garbage on Chrome. Bug report dead in the water. More code just for Chrome.

You get the picture. I now have to develop on Chrome as much as I hate it, even though FF has better debug messages and stability, just because it saves time testing every little thing out.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by marquis-chacha »

ajnin wrote: post #147
marquis-chacha wrote: post #115

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Sorry I was unclear, uMatrix still exists, and I used to use it on Firefox, but now I get a message: uMatrix could not be verified for use in Firefox and has been disabled.

It's working for me, make sure you have the latest Firefox version, there was a bug a few days ago which broke addon-on signature verification.

That was it. Used to Firefox autoupdating, but didn't this time for some reason.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by marquis-chacha »

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #148
marquis-chacha wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry I was unclear, uMatrix still exists, and I used to use it on Firefox, but now I get a message: uMatrix could not be verified for use in Firefox and has been disabled.

Works fine here. You're on current FFx?

That was it. Used to Firefox autoupdating, but didn't this time for some reason.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by mcstafford »

mh-cx wrote: post #152

What some probably consider a privacy nightmare is a Chrome feature I like very much: It syncs all my history, bookmarks and passwords across devices via my Google account. That's especially convenient whenever I get a new device. Is there something comparable for Firefox?

Yes

* https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/accounts/

* https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/products/firefox/sync

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