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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by darkpuma » Thu, May 30, 2019, 4:59 PM UTC

throw0101a wrote: post #53

huy-nguyen wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please stop using AdBlock/AdBlockPlus. Use uBlock Origin instead.

How come? (I tend to use uMatrix.)

uMatrix and uBlock Origin are complementary. Specifically uBlock Origin has cosmetic filters which uMatrix doesn't have. Using both is quite handy in my experience.

Anything "Adblock" should be avoided. Borderline malware imo, and there is no reason to use them when you've got uBO/uMatrix.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by mindcrime » Thu, May 30, 2019, 4:59 PM UTC

Hamuko wrote: post #101

jolmg wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But I can't see the tab's favicon or letters because they're 100% hidden from me. You can scroll on the tab bar.

What's wrong with a fixed tab bar? Like the one in Chrome?

There's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it doesn't work well once you get beyond a certain number of tabs (the number will vary depending on your screen size, etc., blah). At some point, all the tabs are scrunched down to being indistinguishable blobs. Firefox, at least, doesn't have that issue, thanks to the scrolling tab bar. And the drop-down that shows all your tabs is, to me, a sufficient answer to the "my tabs are hidden from me" concern.

I understand that some people will feel differently of course. And it's less of an issue in the first place if you don't keep ludicrous numbers of tabs open.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by dbg31415 » Thu, May 30, 2019, 4:59 PM UTC

Yes, I want to switch... but I have something like 25 plugins and many of them don't have corresponding plugins on Firefox.

For example, when I press Apple + Shift + C, I copy the URL and save it as markup. I want this functionality in Firefox -- it's not good if I can't keyboard shortcut.

Also... and this one is a bit more painful... we use Lighthouse for a lot of testing. Contractually, it's an easy thing to build in, "We'll meet scores of at least 85 on Lighthouse for accessibility..." and I can't run that out of Chrome. Any similar tool suggestions?

I found a lot, but I haven't found suitable replacements for:

* Lighthouse - Chrome Web Store || https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/lighthouse/blipmdc...

* Create Link - Chrome Web Store || https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/create-link/gcmghd... (need to have keyboard shortcut and export link to MarkDown for easier pasting into GitHub issues).

Also... I'd love a good replacement for Xmarks. If Firefox wrote a plugin for Chrome that lets me keep my bookmarks from Firefox sync in sync with Chrome I would be happy. I have to have multiple browsers... and I miss how easy Xmarks made it to go between them.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by pwinnski » Thu, May 30, 2019, 4:59 PM UTC

dictum wrote: post #86

suyash wrote: post #62

Switch to Safari instead if you're on Mac, if you care about privacy and security: https://webkit.org/blog/8943/privacy-preserving-ad-click-att...

I like Safari, but its extension system is even more restrictive. Something like uBlock Origin cannot be implemented anymore. It's an Apple tradition — if you like what's in the box, great, but you won't be able to customize it much later.

I was surprised to see your comment, in Safari, directly below the uBlock Origin icon. It seems to be working fine for me. Do you have more details on what you mean?

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h » Thu, May 30, 2019, 5:00 PM UTC

bin0 wrote: post #71

Random, only slightly-related question: has any one used suckless' surf? I've seen it recommended by the hyper-minimalist nuts, but am more looking into it so I can tweak it easily. I figure it would be a lot easier than trying to slog through webkit, gecko, servo, blink, etc. as it is so much simpler.

Surf is good at what it does. You might also consider uzbl.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by inflatableDodo » Thu, May 30, 2019, 5:00 PM UTC

brento wrote: post #21

I think link forgot to mention a step 4. Step 4: Spend weeks getting used to new shortcuts, finding equivalent extensions/plugins and getting used to their dev tools.

It took me a fortnight to move beyond other people's examples and get my first bit of nicely working verilog code written to my own spec and running on an FPGA, having never touched a hardware description language before. If it is taking you weeks to get up to speed with Firefox, what on earth are you attempting to do with it?

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by chrisjc » Thu, May 30, 2019, 5:00 PM UTC

fencepost wrote: post #104

djsumdog wrote: post #43

Firefox is back where it was back in like 2005, but instead of fighting IE/Microsoft, it's fighting Chrome/Google. Although now it has a bit more of a checkered record than it once did. Everything old is new again. I really wish Microsoft would open source the Edge/Titan engine. There can't possibly be any NSCA code in there they don't own the rights too anymore.

I really wish that if Microsoft was going to abandon having their own engine that they'd gone to Mozilla instead.

Without giving it much thought, I do too.

Anyone know what MSs stance on Rust is?

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by iscrewyou » Thu, May 30, 2019, 5:01 PM UTC

Chrome is now my mail, calendar, and maps app. It took me a good month to psychologically pivot myself into thinking this way but it’s worked.

Everything else is on Firefox now.

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by neogodless » Thu, May 30, 2019, 5:01 PM UTC

itwy wrote: post #111

intothev01d wrote: post #20

I switched a couple of months ago because Chrome is just a bloated piece of garbage. One of my favorite features in Firefox is containers, which I used to have different users for in Chrome. Maybe Chrome has something similar now but it's one of the things I liked when I switched over. Haven't had any issues so far, glad I did

I don't understand how it's better than multiple profiles. I use multiple accounts for the same services (Asana, AWS, email, etc.) how can I manage that with containers?

In my opinion, profiles are useful for separating "who I am." Whether that's my personal life and my professional life, or if it's me or my spouse using the same computer.

Containers are useful for separating "who I am to my providers." As far as Facebook is concerned, I am a Facebook user, but I don't use Amazon or Google. But Amazon thinks I'm an Amazon user that doesn't use Facebook or Google. You can accomplish this with profiles, but in Chrome (last I checked) that meant multiple windows, rather than just sites being displayed in tabs that indicate the container in use. So for that purpose, I believe containers are more useful.

(I also think Firefox should step up their profile game, because when my spouse and I alternate using a computer we share, it's inconvenient for me to close all her Firefox windows so I can open my profile!)

Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by mindcrime » Thu, May 30, 2019, 5:01 PM UTC

Hamuko wrote: post #124

pwinnski wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As stated above, "In Chrome, you're eventually looking at triangles or lines with no way to differentiate them."

There are favicons. And Firefox does nothing to alleviate the problem, since it too only shows favicons. It just makes switching tabs more painful.

Favicons alone aren't really enough though. I routinely have multiple tabs open for Wikipedia, Youtube, Arxiv.org, Jira, Reddit, and even HN.

With Firefox, you get the Favicon and at least the first few characters of the page title. And if you use the tab drop-down, you see all, or most, of the title (depending on how long it is).