Random, only slightly-related question: has any one used suckless' surf? I've seen it recommended by the hyper-minimalist nuts, but am more looking into it so I can tweak it easily. I figure it would be a lot easier than trying to slog through webkit, gecko, servo, blink, etc. as it is so much simpler.
Switch from Chrome to Firefox
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Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox
#72For Apple users (MacOS, iOS), I would suggest Safari over Firefox as FF is the most hacked browser and very unsafe. On the other hand, Safari syncs bookmarks, tabs on all your Apple devices very seamlessly.
I wouldn't call Firefox unsafe. But Safari's sync for bookmarks, passwords, tabs, handoff... is really the killer feature.
I use Firefox as my "virgin" broswser for testing or when I need to manually override proxy settings for my own MitM purposes. But that's about it.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
What opinion? It's just an ad by firefox to download firefox. Do you have an opinion why I should download this you want to share?
Short, flippant but hopefully concise answer: 1. Safari is only available for macOS and iOS. There's no widely available, up to date browser based on non-Blink WebKit, and it's unlikely there will be, as it's rather tied to Apple OS APIs. 2. Aside from Firefox, all browsers that are available for all major operating systems are based on Chromium/Blink, and consequently will inherit Google's architectural decisions, a…
Ugh. Safari is garbage. So many bugs. So many missing features. A release process straight out of the 1990s.
Firefox is the only serious alternative to Chrome.
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#74I switched a couple of months ago because Chrome is just a bloated piece of garbage. One of my favorite features in Firefox is containers, which I used to have different users for in Chrome. Maybe Chrome has something similar now but it's one of the things I liked when I switched over. Haven't had any issues so far, glad I did
> One of my favorite features in Firefox is containers
Container tabs are great. Combined with Tree Style Tabs and Containerise addons, you have something unbeatable in both terms of security, privacy and user friendliness.
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#75Can someone remind me what will happen to all the chromium derivatives that support ad block? Will Google restrict their functionality? If Firefox and Safari are the last browsers to support ad block, then they totally stand a chance.
The changes which impede ad blocking are in Chromium, not in the commercial Chrome fork. And Google will continue to force anti-ad-blocking, pro-tracking changes into Chromium until they reach their ultimate Shrodinger's Privacy-Friendly Browser which exists in a superposition of "showing few ads" and "allowing all tracking."
It's in the "Enterprise" Chrome fork. I don't think they charge money for it.
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#76I hope so because almost every bug I run into during webdev is Chrome, and usually I'm told it's intended behavior or a WONTFIX. With the way Google tries to strongarm standards and at the same time defy them, it's the modern Internet Explorer and it's a PITA to develop for.
What the heck bugs are you running into that surface as a result of chrome being chrome? I’m no google fan but I find chrome to be far and away the most stable and enjoyable browser to debug with.
One that's particularly annoying to me a while ago was you cannot drag and drop elements from an iframe to another iframe from another domain. IIRC it was only an issue in Chrome.
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What quirks? Sounds like you just need more monitors...
I don't want to get "more monitors" just to use another browser.
Looks like you are not making correct usage of tabs, your use-case calls for something like: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/instapaper-to...
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#78Is this a coordinated ad campaign for Firefox? I find it odd how there will be Google Hate, and unanimous Firefox support. I guess I'm looking to hear from users who actually removed Google from their life and are happy. Chrome is only 1 of the Google products I've used.
I starting switching away from Google over the last year. The biggest step was moving off my Gmail account, and the trigger for that was the UI terribleness of Gmail. That took a few hours of updating every account I have with my new address. Password manager really helped with this.
I've never been much of a Chrome user. A few years ago, Chrome was unusable for me on my 2GB work machine, and was a battery-killer on my own laptop. So I stuck with Firefox at work, Safari at home.
DDG is a great search engine. I can't remember the last time I used the "!g" operator, and got any results better than the DDG ones.
The one product I still use Google for is maps, and only when I want to see a good street view or areal photo. For mobile, Apple Maps does just fine. For simple directions on the desktop, OSM works great.
I'm totally happy. 10 years ago, Google was putting things out there that weren't possible with other services. Their mapping was tremendously better than MapQuest, their email was so much nicer than Hotmail, etc.
But now they're bloated and slow. Everything seems to lag as you watch the UI components slowly appear on the screen. And the alternatives today for each product (search, maps, email, browser) are all very much competent.
Re: Switch from Chrome to Firefox
#79For Apple users (MacOS, iOS), I would suggest Safari over Firefox as FF is the most hacked browser and very unsafe. On the other hand, Safari syncs bookmarks, tabs on all your Apple devices very seamlessly.
> very unsafe
[citation needed].
Firefox has sync to all devices too.
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#80My issue is extensions. Firefox will never have all the extensions I use on Chrome. I want to switch. I use firefox on my mobile. But I cant do it on my desktops.