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Re: Show HN: Notational Velocity for Vim

#11

Post by tjoff »

OJFord wrote: post #9
tjoff wrote: post #8

The description isn't that obvious for people that don't know what notational velocity is or how it works.

But to be fair, the first thing the readme says is a paraphrasing of the blurb at, and a link to, the notational velocity homepage.

Yes and I started reading that and went to nvAlt which was also mentioned. But it was frustrating to spend that much effort before even knowing what it was with some detail.

And the gif, which I usually like, suffers the same problem. Hard to follow unless you already know what it is.

In the end I decided it wasn't for me, tons of small files, each per note? Didn't seem that compelling to me, I think I would prefer one or a few larger files maybe something like vim-wiki.

But because I couldn't quickly research it feel I might have misunderstood it.

Re: Show HN: Notational Velocity for Vim

#12

Post by RBerenguel »

RaycatRakittra wrote: post #7
tomcam wrote: post #6

I just use org mode.* * Not really. This looks excellent. I just wanted to get the org mode boast dispatched with as soon as possible.

Well, no. That's not what we'd say to use for this (although you could). [Deft]( https://jblevins.org/projects/deft/ ) would be a better comparison/equivalent. Regarding OP, it looks very snappy! I like it. Looks like it leverages `fzf`. Can we swap it out for something else?

Deft was (around 3 or 4 years) my weapon of choice as well when I was using nvAlt. So, it was nvAlt (for times when I was in a random place on my Mac), Deft (for searching or adding from within emacs and 1Writer [1] from iOS, all were fed from a Dropbox folder.

Now (since January) though I have moved to use Bear [2] (non-free) on all my devices. Its use case is a bit different, but I like it better overall.

Side question: what do you suggest as alternative to fzf? fzf is excellent (a post I wrote on our engineering blog about using it for custom completions in zsh [3]), but I’m always eager to see new tools I can use.

[1] http://1writerapp.com/

[2] https://bear.app/

[3] http://engineering.affectv.com/aws/devops/2018/08/15/fzf-aut...

Re: Show HN: Notational Velocity for Vim

#13

Post by [deleted] »

tjoff wrote: post #11
OJFord wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But to be fair, the first thing the readme says is a paraphrasing of the blurb at, and a link to, the notational velocity homepage.

Yes and I started reading that and went to nvAlt which was also mentioned. But it was frustrating to spend that much effort before even knowing what it was with some detail. And the gif, which I usually like, suffers the same problem. Hard to follow unless you already know what it is. In the end I decided it wasn't for me, tons of small files, each per note? Didn't seem that compelling to me, I think I would prefer o…

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Re: Show HN: Notational Velocity for Vim

#14

Post by bepvte »

RBerenguel wrote: post #12
RaycatRakittra wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, no. That's not what we'd say to use for this (although you could). [Deft]( https://jblevins.org/projects/deft/ ) would be a better comparison/equivalent. Regarding OP, it looks very snappy! I like it. Looks like it leverages `fzf`. Can we swap it out for something else?

Deft was (around 3 or 4 years) my weapon of choice as well when I was using nvAlt. So, it was nvAlt (for times when I was in a random place on my Mac), Deft (for searching or adding from within emacs and 1Writer [1] from iOS, all were fed from a Dropbox folder. Now (since January) though I have moved to use Bear [2] (non-free) on all my devices. Its use case is a bit different, but I like it better overall. Side ques…

fzy percol peco

are all excellent alternatives

Re: Show HN: Notational Velocity for Vim

#15

Post by RBerenguel »

bepvte wrote: post #14
RBerenguel wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Deft was (around 3 or 4 years) my weapon of choice as well when I was using nvAlt. So, it was nvAlt (for times when I was in a random place on my Mac), Deft (for searching or adding from within emacs and 1Writer [1] from iOS, all were fed from a Dropbox folder. Now (since January) though I have moved to use Bear [2] (non-free) on all my devices. Its use case is a bit different, but I like it better overall. Side ques…

fzy percol peco are all excellent alternatives

Thanks!

- Percol (Python): https://github.com/mooz/percol

- Peco (Go): https://github.com/peco/peco

- fzy (C): https://github.com/jhawthorn/fzy

Re: Show HN: Notational Velocity for Vim

#17

Post by criddell »

drewm1980 wrote: post #5

Isn't editing existing notes fundamental to notational velocity UX? I have also been missing NV since leaving Mac OS is 2012. Shame the whole NV codebase is tied to Apple only frameworks. Nothing important about NV is even Mac specific; it is just three textboxes with well thought out key bindings; it's not using a bunch of fancy GUI framework features.

What OS are you using? If it's Windows, check out Resoph Notes. It's not open source but it is shareware and it's very good.

Re: Show HN: Notational Velocity for Vim

#18

Post by pcardoso »

drewm1980 wrote: post #5

Isn't editing existing notes fundamental to notational velocity UX? I have also been missing NV since leaving Mac OS is 2012. Shame the whole NV codebase is tied to Apple only frameworks. Nothing important about NV is even Mac specific; it is just three textboxes with well thought out key bindings; it's not using a bunch of fancy GUI framework features.

I've been doing a web version of NV for quite some time. I have a prototype but no time to finish. Need to find some, NV is awesome.

Re: Show HN: Notational Velocity for Vim

#19

Post by ubermonkey »

fourier_mode wrote: post #10
tjoff wrote: post #8

The description isn't that obvious for people that don't know what notational velocity is or how it works.

Thanks for pointing that out. I thought it is just some name OP chose. It is just a note-taking app for Mac.( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notational_Velocity )

That buries the lede a little.

NV has become popular because of its speed. Your notes are instantly searchable in the top bar of NV. You just type in what you're looking for, and the list of note files -- and they're all just text files -- limits itself to files that contain your search string, and it happens basically as fast as you can type.

It's pretty great. I used it heavily until I started using OrgMode a couple years ago, but missed it enough that I sought out an emacs mode (Deft) that is a workalike.

Re: Show HN: Notational Velocity for Vim

#20

Post by throwaway-hn123 »

tjoff wrote: post #11
OJFord wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But to be fair, the first thing the readme says is a paraphrasing of the blurb at, and a link to, the notational velocity homepage.

Yes and I started reading that and went to nvAlt which was also mentioned. But it was frustrating to spend that much effort before even knowing what it was with some detail. And the gif, which I usually like, suffers the same problem. Hard to follow unless you already know what it is. In the end I decided it wasn't for me, tons of small files, each per note? Didn't seem that compelling to me, I think I would prefer o…

Awww, all that effort. You poor thing, go and have a rest and build up your strength, darling.
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