Very little of that out there nowadays.
It seems like a very conservative project.
It is good that we have this choice.
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Very little of that out there nowadays.
It seems like a very conservative project.
It is good that we have this choice.
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Not me. I lost DownThemAll[1] and TabWheelScroll after the extension overhaul [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DownThemAll !
I loved DownThemAll, but I'm not sad to see it go because I realised how rarely it was actually needed these days. The downloading interface built into Firefox really is fine 99% of the time. On the rarer occasions that I need to download extremely large files, I send them to an HTTP download client (pyload) that runs directly on my NAS in docker.
I really think that it is cool that there is a browser that is looking towards maintenance of what we had (XPCOM, NPAPI for old plugins) versus creating something new. Very little of that out there nowadays. It seems like a very conservative project. It is good that we have this choice.
I really think that it is cool that there is a browser that is looking towards maintenance of what we had (XPCOM, NPAPI for old plugins) versus creating something new. Very little of that out there nowadays. It seems like a very conservative project. It is good that we have this choice.
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I guess if someone really needs to use a legacy extension, it's a good thing that it's around, but I'm personally glad that XUL is dead both from a developer standpoint and as a user.
Not me. I lost DownThemAll[1] and TabWheelScroll after the extension overhaul [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DownThemAll !
I don't see why I wouldn't use Firefox itself over a closed-source fork with no visible advantages.
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I guess if someone really needs to use a legacy extension, it's a good thing that it's around, but I'm personally glad that XUL is dead both from a developer standpoint and as a user.
Yeah, projects like this give me the heebie-jeebies, to be honest. NPAPI and XUL were discontinued for really good reasons. Some users say they still want them, but that's because (1) people hate change, even when it's good for them and (2) they don't really appreciate all the security baggage those old APIs were lugging around with them. Projects that assure those users that they can keep on trucking with their old…
The move away from XUL and NPAPI is great for Mozilla, it makes it easier to maintain and develop the browser, it's probably good for extension developers (except for those who now can't port their extension to the new API because it's more limited), but it's not good for users who are forced to take time out of their day to find and alternatives or users who just have to accept that what they were previously using their browser for just isn't possible anymore with Firefox.
Saying that change is "good" for users even if the users don't realize it and resist, prevents us from considering the very real negative effects of introducing breaking changes or removing features of our software.
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It isn't linked from https://www.waterfox.net at all, so hard to say
I mean, about page says Alex Kontos, MrAlex94 is Alex Kontos, so it almost certainly is. Not linking the source code is somewhat understandable because it is likely to increase support burden without any increase in contribution.
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AFAIK the main selling point is xul (legacy) extension support.
I guess if someone really needs to use a legacy extension, it's a good thing that it's around, but I'm personally glad that XUL is dead both from a developer standpoint and as a user.
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It's not worded precisely, but I believe what they have in mind is tracking performed without prior consent by the browser author. Obviously if you don't block tracking scripts that doesn't protect you from websites that want to track you, but that's not the point of the statement.
> It's not worded precisely, but I believe what they have in mind is tracking performed without prior consent by the browser author. That was my interpretation. If I tell someone "I'm not collecting any data on you, so you don't have to worry about being tracked", it would be odd for them to accuse me of lying or being incompetent since obviously the government is tracking them.
No, it's not obvious. If you don't have any idea how it works, it's easy to read in that statement that not including telemetry in the browser prevents all tracking, including by sites.