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Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by petjuh »

toddwprice wrote: post #449
behringer wrote: post #391

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it doesn't work in Firefox I don't use it. I've been using Firefox for as long as I can remember, probably shortly after it was made and Netscape died. And would never use Chrome. Chrome users are now going to be betrayed and just didn't see it coming. I look forward to Firefox' upcoming rebound which I have every faith this news will spur on.

I came back to Firefox a while back - maybe a year or two? - and have never regretted it. It's a fast, modern, respectful browser. Maintained by a non-profit. I do all my front-end dev work in Firefox, and also test in Chrome. Never had a problem. Come on back folks!

I switched to Chrome the same day the beta was released mostly because of the speed. Nowadays I stay because I keep my passwords synced over my Google Account and I'm not sure if Firefox works with that.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by techntoke »

morning_gelato wrote: post #530
techntoke wrote: post #442

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Firefox doesn't even properly support hardware acceleration in Linux.

Neither does chromium unfortunately, although Fedora now incorporates the out of tree va-api patches for chromium by default. This is one of the biggest things keeping me on chromium, video acceleration in the browser significantly improves battery life.

There is a package for Arch as well, and it was previously in the default package, but they removed it again temporarily. This is keeping me on Chromium as well, but if it were added to Firefox then I'd reconsider.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by f1refly »

hannasanarion wrote: post #390
ravenstine wrote: post #269

Slightly off topic, I'm finding it very disingenuous that people in this thread(and any other threads that come up about Firefox) have actually had significant performance issues with Firefox. No bugs that are noteworthy, sans that fiasco with the expired certificate that disabled addons briefly. I've been using Firefox since "quantum" on both my MacBooks(one of which is old AF) and on Linux. I've yet to have problem…

Firefox has several experience-breaking bugs for me. One where on websites that don't explicitly set their form background to white, which is the default on most browsers, Firefox paints them the color of the user's desktop theme, even when the theme is dark. Black text on black background. This bug had been known about for almost 20 years and is marked "won't fix" because the devs still assert that universal user th…

The first one is easy, see the second answer in this thread https://askubuntu.com/questions/8336/how-can-one-make-firefo...

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by ubercow13 »

esturk wrote: post #311
ravenstine wrote: post #269

Slightly off topic, I'm finding it very disingenuous that people in this thread(and any other threads that come up about Firefox) have actually had significant performance issues with Firefox. No bugs that are noteworthy, sans that fiasco with the expired certificate that disabled addons briefly. I've been using Firefox since "quantum" on both my MacBooks(one of which is old AF) and on Linux. I've yet to have problem…

My issue with Firefox is essentially one bug where they refuse to fix. In private mode, previously closed tabs are, for some reasons, restorable. This doesn't happen for Safari or Chrome.

That's a feature. Chrome will refuse to remember history so that you can reopen the tab, however it will remember all other data from the closed tab such as cookies. If you log into a website in an incognito window, close all tabs of that website and then open a new tab and navigate to the site again, you'll still be logged in.

It tricks you into thinking that session state is kept only per-tab by disabling a useful feature (history), however the incognito session's state is actually scoped per-window and not properly cleared/forgotten until you close the window.

Firefox knows how to have temporary window-local cookies/site data _and_ history. Chrome doesn't know how to keep the history. It's a missing feature IMHO.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by jakeogh »

notatoad wrote: post #260

Not only is this enough to get me switching back to firefox, it's enough that my next laptop purchase won't be another chromebook the internet without an adblocker is simply not usable for me.

Serious suggestion: Disable JS. I find the net practically unusable with it enabled. It's like getting stuck using Windows for something.

Checkout surf (webkit): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20023287

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by ChrisGranger »

Mirioron wrote: post #506
behringer wrote: post #391

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it doesn't work in Firefox I don't use it. I've been using Firefox for as long as I can remember, probably shortly after it was made and Netscape died. And would never use Chrome. Chrome users are now going to be betrayed and just didn't see it coming. I look forward to Firefox' upcoming rebound which I have every faith this news will spur on.

But doesn't Firefox require that godawful add-on signing?

The Developer Edition of Firefox allows one to turn off the add-on signing requirement.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by luckylion »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #470
sjwright wrote: post #446

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Yes, let's beat Google by giving them more money by increasing the overall advertising hit rate in an organic, nearly untraceable fashion. Wait, what was the logic of that again?

It pits advertisers with deep pockets against Google's deep pockets, without the need to have deep pockets yourself.

From my experience, many advertisers do so little QA, they'll hardly notice that their conversion rate dips a little. And if they do, they'll look for problems elsewhere: Google is never wrong.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by nneonneo »

mmgutz wrote: post #524
starik36 wrote: post #480

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My experience exactly. The dev tools have caught up to chrome and in some ways surpassed it.

The only thing I miss is the ease which you can create and use different profiles in Chrome. Facilitates testing web apps. Firefox's support of multiple profiles is kludgy.

This is funny - because I actually resisted switching to Chrome initially because it didn’t support multiple profiles at all.

FWIW, I find Firefox’s support for multiple profiles fine - it just requires the -P argument, which you can wrap up in a shortcut or launcher script. (On Windows, add -no-remote to force a new instance to launch). -P takes an optional profile name, so you can add it to your scripts to auto-launch a Firefox with a particular profile preloaded.

Sure, it could use a proper UI, but if enough people clamour for it I’m sure that can get added. The fundamental support for multiple profiles is quite good.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by mehrdadn »

Tepix wrote: post #560
mehrdadn wrote: post #420

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> People were predicting this as the Chrome endgame years ago. It's playing out exactly as everyone cynically expected. Would you happen to have any links to previous discussions anticipating this exact endgame?

Here‘s a german article from 2008 https://heise.de/-202799

I see hardly anything even about advertising in there? Let alone anything about ad blockers. It's just generic statements/quotes about monopoly, privacy, browser wars, etc... and a few notes about how promoting the web helps promote Google's products/services indirectly too, which helps their bottom line... which Google itself has been saying openly since forever. There's nothing there particularly predictive of this particular chain of events.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by _zamorano_ »

petjuh wrote: post #571
toddwprice wrote: post #449

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came back to Firefox a while back - maybe a year or two? - and have never regretted it. It's a fast, modern, respectful browser. Maintained by a non-profit. I do all my front-end dev work in Firefox, and also test in Chrome. Never had a problem. Come on back folks!

I switched to Chrome the same day the beta was released mostly because of the speed. Nowadays I stay because I keep my passwords synced over my Google Account and I'm not sure if Firefox works with that.

Sure it does. I keep my passwords synchronized with a Firefox account through my Windows, Linux and Android devices. Works like a charm. I won't trust google to keep them.
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