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The Boring Company will develop an underground “people mover” for Las Vegas

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Post by hnzix »

spraak wrote: post #95
calgoo wrote: post #67

I love watching all of Musk's projects, as every single one can be connected to Mars colonization. 1. Electric cars for transport, Check. 2. Solar panels and batteries for power generation and storage, check. 3. Tunnel digging equipment for making underground bases and transport, check. 4. Satellite communications for an entire planet, check. 5. Then finally, the actual rockets to get us there. Hopefully he will cont…

The goal of Mars to me is silly. Mars is already worse off in terms of climate than Earth. Why not work to improve what we have? The only appeal I see is "uncharted territory" / wild west

> The goal of Mars to me is silly. Mars is already worse off in terms of climate than Earth. Why not work to improve what we have?

Earth's biosphere has already had five (5) mass extinctions. Guess what happens to humanity if number six shows up before we colonize another planet? Mars is simply the closest option.

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Post by reaperducer »

rayiner wrote: post #51
reaperducer wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cheaply ≠ better.

Yes it does! Cost directly affects how much transit you can build. If it didn’t cost New York 5x as much money to build a mile of track as it does London or Paris, New York could build five times as much track for the same fares/taxes.

Cost directly affects how much transit you can build

Quantity ≠ quality.

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Post by GuB-42 »

snazz wrote: post #79
calgoo wrote: post #67

I love watching all of Musk's projects, as every single one can be connected to Mars colonization. 1. Electric cars for transport, Check. 2. Solar panels and batteries for power generation and storage, check. 3. Tunnel digging equipment for making underground bases and transport, check. 4. Satellite communications for an entire planet, check. 5. Then finally, the actual rockets to get us there. Hopefully he will cont…

Has he specifically called out the connection or is this your pet conspiracy theory? It doesn’t seem too far off, to be honest.

For SpaceX, yes, obviously.

For Hyperloop, he did too. And Hyperloop involve battery powered electric vehicles, tunnels and solar panels (on top). So indirectly, there is a connection.

He also made clear that colonizing Mars, or at least getting partway through is one of his life goals, if not his life goal.

There is definitely a connection. But following the progression, it seems like Mars isn't the reason he started these companies, but "how can I make it useful on Mars" is definitely a consideration.

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Post by greglindahl »

tomjakubowski wrote: post #153
tntn wrote: post #129

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That would be great. Subway costs are absolutely ridiculous, so it would be fantastic if the boring company decides to build exactly the same thing for much less.

It's not exactly the same thing. In the Boring underground car-train, each party of travelers takes up an entire car's or truck's worth of space. On a subway, each person takes up room for themselves and their belongings. Plus maybe a bicycle. You can move a lot more people at once in a subway. Further, when the Boring underground car-train "stops", and parties leave the train, those cars still demand that same space…

This article that we're discussing, about Las Vegas, involves dedicated vehicles, not personal cars. And one of them is a 16-person people mover. It is expected to have a low enough usage that that makes sense.

How many people are you expecting to take their bikes on the subway on the Vegas strip?

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Post by dls2016 »

paulcole wrote: post #209
calgoo wrote: post #67

I love watching all of Musk's projects, as every single one can be connected to Mars colonization. 1. Electric cars for transport, Check. 2. Solar panels and batteries for power generation and storage, check. 3. Tunnel digging equipment for making underground bases and transport, check. 4. Satellite communications for an entire planet, check. 5. Then finally, the actual rockets to get us there. Hopefully he will cont…

My theory is that he isn't even interested in Mars colonization. Like any great magician, it's just a misdirection.

I really can’t believe how many people on here take Musk seriously. Tesla is going bankrupt, there’s no evidence that SpaceX is profitable nor that reusable rockets will help in this regard and the Boring Co is a less funny take on Lyle Lanley (they have zero engineering insight as far as I can see).

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Post by Causality1 »

embwbam wrote: post #202
bongobongo wrote: post #197

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Yikes, dude. I'm sorry, but Elon Musk is just a guy with money. He's not a demigod. He's not a genius. He's not even a captain of industry. He's just a rich guy playing with money and and building a personal brand. I'm not saying that he doesn't have ideas, and that some of those ideas aren't the totally self-serving delusions of a rich dickhead, but a good many of them are, and I certainly don't want any part of "th…

I'd like to live in a world where rich dickheads act more like Musk and do cool things. It's like living in a comic book. It's fun. But that's not our way forward. Forget the billionaires, we need to assemble, reinvest in our political system, and start building a better future from the ground up.

Why do you think those things are mutually exclusive?

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Post by stefan_ »

skywhopper wrote: post #162

The math on this is highly questionable: The contract posted on the LVCVA website projects an operating capacity of 4,400 passengers per hour using “autonomous electric vehicles at high speeds,” which might include a Tesla Model X or Model 3, or another Tesla chassis converted into a 16-passenger shuttle. There are two tunnels involved, so to manage to get 2,200 passengers through in one direction per hour, you're go…

For comparison, the Wenhu Line [1], a generic medium-capacity rapid transit, transports 7500 passengers per hour. That's actual numbers, not peak-wishful-thinking-16-passenger-modified-Tesla-body-shuttle-times-Musk-factor numbers.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wenhu_line

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Post by computerex »

calgoo wrote: post #67

I love watching all of Musk's projects, as every single one can be connected to Mars colonization. 1. Electric cars for transport, Check. 2. Solar panels and batteries for power generation and storage, check. 3. Tunnel digging equipment for making underground bases and transport, check. 4. Satellite communications for an entire planet, check. 5. Then finally, the actual rockets to get us there. Hopefully he will cont…

You are reading into it. He himself claimed to have found the boring company because traffic is soul sucking.

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Post by mar77i »

calgoo wrote: post #67

I love watching all of Musk's projects, as every single one can be connected to Mars colonization. 1. Electric cars for transport, Check. 2. Solar panels and batteries for power generation and storage, check. 3. Tunnel digging equipment for making underground bases and transport, check. 4. Satellite communications for an entire planet, check. 5. Then finally, the actual rockets to get us there. Hopefully he will cont…

I wonder what he'll need a flamethrower for, on mars.

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Post by alaskamiller »

gleenn wrote: post #276
alaskamiller wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon is new Steve Jobs is the new Jesus. Anyone can foist one's own unbridled ambitions, mixed in with a dash of lottery dreaming, tossed in with a bit of hubris, to come up with whatever the bright shiny future could be.

The difference might be they were also heads of million dollar companies. How many of those have you or I started?

You wouldn't know.
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