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The Boring Company will develop an underground “people mover” for Las Vegas

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Re: The Boring Company will develop an underground “people mover” for Las Vegas

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Yes, it is. With one that caveat that if it's built 10x cheaper than comparable tunnels, it is. Moving our roads underground is a vastly superior transportation system than we have today. It can be safer, better for the air, better for light and noise pollution, unlock vast amounts of land in our urban areas for parks, etc. I grew up near Boston during the big dig and the city is a drastically different place before…

The Big Dig strikes me as what could be as much a reason not to do that thing.

Re: The Boring Company will develop an underground “people mover” for Las Vegas

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So what’s this fascination with tunnels? In Chicago, there are overhead elevated train tracks, and they work just fine. They seem a lot cheaper to build and maintain than tunnels. You can even build them over existing avenues. Why don’t we have more of that?

My understanding of tunnels fascination is to create a 3D transportation space to mirror the 3D work/living space of cities. Yes, EL trains add one layer. However, the idea behind the tunnels is that they can make 20 layers, if needed.

I say this without commenting on the actual financial viability, since that is very much a matter of debate and I'm tepidly optimistic on it at best.

Re: The Boring Company will develop an underground “people mover” for Las Vegas

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I believe in Elon. He’s always late, but he mostly delivers. If he gets 10x faster instead of 14x and does it cheaper, it’s a huge boon to society (forces other companies to innovate). Cost disease for infrastructure is in my opinion the biggest drag against gdp and the economy.

Re: The Boring Company will develop an underground “people mover” for Las Vegas

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So what’s this fascination with tunnels? In Chicago, there are overhead elevated train tracks, and they work just fine. They seem a lot cheaper to build and maintain than tunnels. You can even build them over existing avenues. Why don’t we have more of that?

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Re: The Boring Company will develop an underground “people mover” for Las Vegas

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If they aren’t going to finish the Vegas monorail, maybe they can build a tunnel from the airport to the Strip?

Minneapolis did the right thing with its light rail: Going from the Airport, to downtown, to the Mall of America. When I was consulting in Minneapolis, getting from the Airport to the apartment I'd rented downtown was just a typical jaunt on public transit. Here's how to win with public transit: Build it where people want to go. Amazing how difficult that is.

Yeah the first few lines are pretty obvious if you are smart about it.

Twins ballpark / transit hub (not there at time of construction but it helps that it is now), downtown, Vikings Stadium, Airport, MOA... pretty obvious and useful route. Then to the U and St. Paul.

After that is is a question of what direction out to the burbs you reach out to, and then the next, and so on.

Re: The Boring Company will develop an underground “people mover” for Las Vegas

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The submitted title was "No, the Las Vegas 'Loop' Is Not the Future of Public Transportation". That broke the HN guidelines, which ask submitters to use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait, and not to editorialize. We remove submission privileges from accounts who post like this, so please don't.

Note: if this was the article's original title and, as sometimes happens, they changed it, then none of this applies. Usually it's just the NYT who do that though.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: The Boring Company will develop an underground “people mover” for Las Vegas

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So what’s this fascination with tunnels? In Chicago, there are overhead elevated train tracks, and they work just fine. They seem a lot cheaper to build and maintain than tunnels. You can even build them over existing avenues. Why don’t we have more of that?

Boring company trying to make tunnels lot cheaper

Re: The Boring Company will develop an underground “people mover” for Las Vegas

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Yes, it is. With one that caveat that if it's built 10x cheaper than comparable tunnels, it is. Moving our roads underground is a vastly superior transportation system than we have today. It can be safer, better for the air, better for light and noise pollution, unlock vast amounts of land in our urban areas for parks, etc. I grew up near Boston during the big dig and the city is a drastically different place before…

What's a comparable tunnel? Isn't the Vegas loop a single lane tunnel for personal vehicles? I can't think of other existing/planned tunnels that fit that description, aside from other Boring Co ones.

I'm not at all convinced that this design can scale.

Re: The Boring Company will develop an underground “people mover” for Las Vegas

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If they aren’t going to finish the Vegas monorail, maybe they can build a tunnel from the airport to the Strip?

The problem is that "the Strip" isn't a singular place; it's two lines of huge casinos on either side of Las Vegas Boulevard. Any transportation from the airport needs to more or less stop at each casino (or directly connect to something that does) to be useful.
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