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Paul Buchheit: Chrome OS Will Perish Or “Merge” With Android

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Re: Paul Buchheit: Chrome OS Will Perish Or “Merge” With Android

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Post by shareme »

unfortunately TC is both wrong and late as usual..let me explain..

Lets start with what android OS and Chrome OS share..lets see that would be that Chrome Browser..ever wonder why the browser in android is behind in build numbers compared to the iOS safari trunk as far as HTML5 etc?

There is a reason..its use new functionalities are added to me it a chrome browser..the same feature set that persuaded Google to start Chrome OS in the first place..

Thus, in-fact android OS and Chrome OS have already 'merged'..

Re: Paul Buchheit: Chrome OS Will Perish Or “Merge” With Android

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Post by jokermatt999 »

jrockway wrote: post #36

Prediction: Windows Phone 7 will merge with Windows 7 or perish. iOS will merge with OS X or perish. Oh wait, I don't predict either of those things. In each case, one is a desktop OS and one is a mobile OS. Sure, they all include web browsers that use the same rendering engine, but that doesn't mean they need to merge. Mobile and Desktop are two separate problems. There's a reason why Windows CE laptops were never s…

I don't know if that comparison is completely apt. Chrome OS is very different from most "desktop" OSes. I can actually do more with Android instead of less. I agree that the UI and interactions would be odd running off of stock Android, especially if the device (laptop/tablet/hybrid) isn't specifically designed for it, but I don't think it's as insane of an idea as you seem to be implying.

In all the other instances, a phone OS loses functionality and flexibility from the desktop, while it would gain it in this case.

Re: Paul Buchheit: Chrome OS Will Perish Or “Merge” With Android

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Post by DougBTX »

michael_dorfman wrote: post #34
axod wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are tablets huge, or are touchscreens huge? To know, we need some decent laptops with touchscreens. It seems like the best of both worlds will clearly be a tablet that docks to the bottom half of a laptop - so we get a laptop with a tablet that can be carried around. I also think it's a fairly good long term bet. At the moment we're in this strange 'appstore' download applications era which is like being back in the…

Microsoft pushed a similar form factor to what you describe, a few years back. The market rejected it. Personally, I think a keyboard/touchscreen combination sounds great, but apparently we're in the extreme minority on this one.

Perhaps they just rejected Windows XP on tablets with keyboards, not tablets with keyboards.

Re: Paul Buchheit: Chrome OS Will Perish Or “Merge” With Android

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Post by doron »

robinwauters wrote: post #39
gms wrote: post #37

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Don't you find it unsettling that comments you make on social sites become 'news'?

As the author, I'd be happy to have a discussion about that. In my mind, comments made on any public platform, whether it'd be on stage at a conference or on a public account of a social networking service, can constitute news if there's a clear angle.

Perhaps, but the limitation imposed by this medium (140 char) as you noted gives little. Consider any overheard single sentence and how much insight you usually gain from it.

I like twitter, but the reliance on this platform as a source is a little too much sometimes.

Re: Paul Buchheit: Chrome OS Will Perish Or “Merge” With Android

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Post by statictype »

axod wrote: post #19
trezor wrote: post #17

My favourite quote from that article is the following one: Update: more from Buchheit in the FriendFeed thread: ChromeOS has no purpose that isn’t better served by Android (perhaps with a few mods to support a non-touch display). I was thinking, “is this too obvious to even state?”, but then I see people taking ChromeOS seriously, and Google is even shipping devices for some reason. I fully agree with this one, and h…

It still makes an absolute ton of sense for people who only use the web. The browser on android is OK, but it's nowhere near Chrome afaics. I believe ChromeOS is going after the non-techy market of people who don't care about all the bells and whistles of android. I think both could still be successful.

It still makes an absolute ton of sense for people who only use the web.

How many people do you know who only use the web?

Re: Paul Buchheit: Chrome OS Will Perish Or “Merge” With Android

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Post by brlewis »

robinwauters wrote: post #26
brlewis wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FriendFeed (at least for me on Firefox 3.6.3/Ubuntu) doesn't update that time as the item scrolls down the screen, so the screenshot was probably taken more than 11 seconds later. But yes, it is remarkable how fast they picked it up. (I don't especially want that time to update in real-time. I find it distracting when Facebook does it.) I'm amused that they use the verb "tweeted" for a native FriendFeed post that hap…

You're easily amused :)

:-) Two years ago it was questionable whether Twitter or FriendFeed would ultimately be bigger. I predicted Paul would stop being known primarily for gmail. I'm laughing at myself as I look at this article about "Gmail Creator Paul Buchheit" and his FriendFeed post being called tweeting.

Re: Paul Buchheit: Chrome OS Will Perish Or “Merge” With Android

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Post by nuclear_eclipse »

statictype wrote: post #45
axod wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It still makes an absolute ton of sense for people who only use the web. The browser on android is OK, but it's nowhere near Chrome afaics. I believe ChromeOS is going after the non-techy market of people who don't care about all the bells and whistles of android. I think both could still be successful.

It still makes an absolute ton of sense for people who only use the web. How many people do you know who only use the web?

My wife, my parents, and other random family members....

Re: Paul Buchheit: Chrome OS Will Perish Or “Merge” With Android

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Post by 9ec4c12949a4f3 »

A year is premature, the projects have been positioned nicely for both device and interface scalability in such a way that the projects will merge towards each other, but that won't be in the next 12 months, and I have doubts about that happening for 24 months to be honest.

There's a lot of things we need to deal with, a lot of 2.0-ish infrastructure with RESTful APIs and that needs to be built, protocols like SPDY are still being pushed (which will be critical for cloud OSs), feeds need to be centralized by services like feedburner, etc...

One year? That's not going to happen. Chrome OS is going to deal with the web as it is today. Android is dealing with cellphones as they are today.

The merged project means the web today needs to look like cellphones today, and vice-versa.

Re: Paul Buchheit: Chrome OS Will Perish Or “Merge” With Android

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Post by bockris »

statictype wrote: post #45
axod wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It still makes an absolute ton of sense for people who only use the web. The browser on android is OK, but it's nowhere near Chrome afaics. I believe ChromeOS is going after the non-techy market of people who don't care about all the bells and whistles of android. I think both could still be successful.

It still makes an absolute ton of sense for people who only use the web. How many people do you know who only use the web?

My parents, my in-laws, and to some degree my wife and kids. I was lucky enough to receive a Cr-48 and it's been in constant use for the small time we've had it. Some of that is the 'new' factor but my wife has a regular laptop that she uses on the couch occasionally. Now she asks "Where is the Google laptop?" It is partially form factor but the boot/wakeup speed is addicting. Also the fast user switching makes it very easy to trade around. Last night I was using it for Google reader and my wife asked when she could use it. I was just messing around so I closed the lid and handed it to her. She lifted the lid, it was on instantly, she signed me out and signed herself in and was reading her mail in probably about 10 seconds.

Even with the problems with the trackpad and the stuttering flash I can see the potential. I would buy at least 2 Cr-48's today if they were for sale. Another one for my family to share and the other for my parents. I would set up a gmail account for my parents and ship it to them and be safe in the knowledge that I would only be doing application support for them, not system support.

Re: Paul Buchheit: Chrome OS Will Perish Or “Merge” With Android

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Post by jimfl »

rms wrote: post #31
J3L2404 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How exactly would you "settle up"?

IOU's or something not very likely like myself founding a Y Combinator company making prediction markets using HN karma. It would take a lot to convince pg to allow for direct HN karma transfers. It doesn't mean we can't create a shadow market with words. I created a similar fake prediction market on Less Wrong. http://lesswrong.com/lw/1tr/creating_a_less_wrong_prediction...

"Good morning. In WallNet news, the Karma continues its rise against the BitCoin in heavy wagering over whether cloud computing giant Facebook will kill the popular Java language following an acquisition of foundering Internet retailer Oracle corporation."
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