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The realities of 'owning' a Japanese convenience store

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Re: The realities of 'owning' a Japanese convenience store

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> Once you know those nothing beats pulling a warm can of black coffee from the machine. I'd say pulling a bottle of warm lemon / lime tea was even better, especially with travel-sore-throat. > low prices Aside from providing warm drinks, that's the big ticket right there: IME, european vending machines are basically predatory, they're way overpriced for what they provide and rely on necessity or impulse rather than…

"Aside from providing warm drinks, that's the big ticket right there: IME, european vending machines are basically predatory, they're way overpriced for what they provide and rely on necessity or impulse rather than just doing good business." Absolutely agree: I don't remember the last time I bought something from a public vending machine (or even seeing someone else doing so) here in Spain. Prices are anywhere betwe…

Believe it or not, but even in Japan, vending machine prices are 2-3x what you’ll pay in a supermarket. You just don’t notice it as much because prices are low in general.

A supermarket can coffee will cost maybe 60-100円 for what you pay 120-200円 in a vending machine.

Re: The realities of 'owning' a Japanese convenience store

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I studied this as part of my degree. It's mostly the ice cream vendors problem, where apparently the franchises would prefer to saturate a smaller area with competitors than a larger area with no competition. It's probably an oversimplification but it is painfully evident when walking around metro areas of Japan.

Why would ice cream vendors want to all compete in the same place? It seems economically counter-intuitive.

https://mindyourdecisions.com/blog/2008/03/25/game-theory-tu...

Re: The realities of 'owning' a Japanese convenience store

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post #139

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I studied this as part of my degree. It's mostly the ice cream vendors problem, where apparently the franchises would prefer to saturate a smaller area with competitors than a larger area with no competition. It's probably an oversimplification but it is painfully evident when walking around metro areas of Japan.

Why would ice cream vendors want to all compete in the same place? It seems economically counter-intuitive.

The Hoteling-Downs Model of Spatial Competition:

http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/downs.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jILgxeNBK_8

Re: The realities of 'owning' a Japanese convenience store

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> Within any given area there is probably 6 to 7 stores within eyeshot and an easy walk. That's just Tokyo and it's a very biased impression. Most places in Japan don't have that kind of density of combinis. I there there are about 55 000 combini in Japan, and there's probably 20% of that in Tokyo alone so you were in an area that's not representative of japan as a whole. In most other other cities there's rarely mor…

From my place in suburban Kyoto, there are five 7-11s within a ten-minute walk. Ten years ago, there was one.

Kyoto is also a megacity, so it's pretty much saying "Hey I live in another huge city in Japan and there's also a lot of combinis". You can say the same thing about Osaka, too.

Re: The realities of 'owning' a Japanese convenience store

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> Within any given area there is probably 6 to 7 stores within eyeshot and an easy walk. That's just Tokyo and it's a very biased impression. Most places in Japan don't have that kind of density of combinis. I there there are about 55 000 combini in Japan, and there's probably 20% of that in Tokyo alone so you were in an area that's not representative of japan as a whole. In most other other cities there's rarely mor…

> In most other other cities there's rarely more than one combini at the same place, and you would not see 5-6 of them just by walking 5 minutes. I live in a prefectural capitol in Southern Kyushu and yeah you're right - we only have 3 convenience stores in 5 minute walking distance. That's in a residential area and not in the central district where there are more. I lived in a similarly sized city in Sweden and ther…

> I lived in a similarly sized city in Sweden and there was literally one single 24/7 convenience store in the whole city. And I think it closed.

I could be wrong but that's probably because Sweden has a far too low density of consumers to support this kind of business.

Re: The realities of 'owning' a Japanese convenience store

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Are you sure about that fact? Pharmacists went on strike in Netherlands this year. Another reply mentioned Poland. It seems there's no EU rule, or maybe it's more that some still need to be open. The majority of what a pharmacy provides is repeat customers anyway. Despite regular customers planning badly pretty much all the time, the majority gets their medicine for a minimum of various weeks. The participation of th…

> The reason was the increase in the aggression towards the people working in a pharmacy. What kind of aggression?

Aggression towards pharmacists is usually from addicts who want drugs.

Re: The realities of 'owning' a Japanese convenience store

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From my place in suburban Kyoto, there are five 7-11s within a ten-minute walk. Ten years ago, there was one.

I was in Kobe a few weeks ago and it was the same, all over the city center. As a consumer honestly there is little to complain, they ARE very convenient. But grandparent is correct: a lot of items are expensive for what they are (some of the "fresh" meals cost as much as a eating in a normal ramen/noodle place on the street), so you pay for the convenience.

> I was in Kobe a few weeks ago and it was the same, all over the city center.

That's only in Sannomiya. Go in Suma, Nada, Rokko, you won't find that many combinis within a very short walking distance. The city center is appropriate for this kind of density because there's 3 different train lines (and 4 if you consider the metro) stopping right at the same place transporting hundreds of thousands of people every day.

Re: The realities of 'owning' a Japanese convenience store

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The effects of the Lehman shock and 3/11 disaster hit the middle class hard, the blame is pointed at millennials for being thrifty (Why aren't young people buying luxury cars? Why do young people buy everything second hand?), but the reality is that middle class Japanese have less disposable income than 10,20, and especially 30 years ago

Japanese GDP now is ~$500B less than it was in 1995. [1] A country can't experience 25 years of economic stagnation as a whole and magically generate a large cohort of young people with money to throw around. Things are a little better in purchasing power per capita terms [2], but not by enough to make a difference. [1] https://www.google.com/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&... [2] https://www.google.com/publicd…

"Japanese GDP now is ~$500B less than it was in 1995."

Yet in 2012 it was $800B more than in 1995?

From your graph it has been mostly been stable.

Re: The realities of 'owning' a Japanese convenience store

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McDonalds has clean bathrooms? That's news to me. Source: went for a wee in a McDo in Belgium last week, place was predictably disgusting.

I don't want to cast aspersions on Belgium, but that's atypical. My experience is that wherever you are in the world, McDonald's is usually reliable for its food (you know what you're getting, even if you're not a huge fan of it) and its decent toilets. (I admit there may be some residual rose-tinted-ness to my opinion here, after staying on a Greek island years ago; after days struggling with the idiosyncratic local…

Continuing on your Greek tangent, Greek pipes are generally not built to handle paper products, therefore you are supposed to throw it in a small trash bin, which may sound disgusting but they generally are rather airtight and you honestly don't smell anything if you use them properly. The alternative is clogging the pipes, which from my experience living in multiple Greek cities, happens a lot especially due to the influx of tourists who don't know any better and/or ignore any signage.
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