Oh boy! Which one? Startup #1: we did not recognize the need to bring in the talent we lacked (graphic design). We had an interesting but ugly product in a space where looks were important - had some traction but not nearly enough. Startup #2: we did some market research, got some interest from prospective clients, got excited and started building our MVP before fully validating the requirements. Spent a lot of effor…
Ask HN: Why did your startup fail?
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Re: Ask HN: Why did your startup fail?
#32Oh boy! Which one? Startup #1: we did not recognize the need to bring in the talent we lacked (graphic design). We had an interesting but ugly product in a space where looks were important - had some traction but not nearly enough. Startup #2: we did some market research, got some interest from prospective clients, got excited and started building our MVP before fully validating the requirements. Spent a lot of effor…
Can you expand on the lack of market validation? What else would validating include, apart from interviewing users (qualitative research)? What kind of useful quantitative research could one do? The obvious answer I can come up with is building a landing page with a sign-up field to gauge interest, but what other useful quantitative research can one do to validate the market?
Re: Ask HN: Why did your startup fail?
#33Oh boy! Which one? Startup #1: we did not recognize the need to bring in the talent we lacked (graphic design). We had an interesting but ugly product in a space where looks were important - had some traction but not nearly enough. Startup #2: we did some market research, got some interest from prospective clients, got excited and started building our MVP before fully validating the requirements. Spent a lot of effor…
Can you expand on the lack of market validation? What else would validating include, apart from interviewing users (qualitative research)? What kind of useful quantitative research could one do? The obvious answer I can come up with is building a landing page with a sign-up field to gauge interest, but what other useful quantitative research can one do to validate the market?
Interviewing (prospective) users would actually be a good start. Some of the B2C projects I worked on did not do this until after launch.
B2B - I've worked on projects that did not have a single prospective client lined up before development started (let alone before MVP launch). I think there is a certain optimism entrepreneurs have in the face of rejection - sometimes it takes the form of "no one is interested right now, but we just need to have an MVP to show them and then they will become interested!"
Re: Ask HN: Why did your startup fail?
#34Oh boy! Which one? Startup #1: we did not recognize the need to bring in the talent we lacked (graphic design). We had an interesting but ugly product in a space where looks were important - had some traction but not nearly enough. Startup #2: we did some market research, got some interest from prospective clients, got excited and started building our MVP before fully validating the requirements. Spent a lot of effor…
> Built and launched, failed to get traction, folded. What should be the next step after failing to get traction?
If the initial idea was way off it might be hard to pivot within reasonably short time/cost.
If the plan is self fund - launch - show traction - get funding, then the "get funding" step probably won't happen so the next step is folding.
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#35* We changed business models so our customers became competitors. How many ways do you depend on your customers? Is it just sales, or is it marketing too? Will your new customers really be able to replace your old ones? What is the transition plan?
* We always delivered what we promised and sometimes more, but late. Our competitors under-delivered but always on time. How sensitive are your customers to features vs timelines? Have you separated your features so you can deliver _something_ on time? Or is it all-or-nothing?
* The parent company/major investor had a bad year and shut down our funding. They were so big, that had been unthinkable. How diverse are your funding sources?
* After shutting down, we stayed together trying to resell what we had developed. We found an apparently interested large company and really tried to get them to fund our continuation. They were just playing us along, trying to learn what we knew about the market, then they released a competitive product that was inferior to what we had in development before the shutdown. How much do you know that your investors don't? Are you sure you want to tell them?
* The parent company/major investor decided our project was actually really cool and decided to move management back to the mothership, where they were pretty clueless about our market. That killed morale in our office (because it wasn't our project anymore) and slowed down decision making immensely (mothership was overseas). How much do you know that your investors don't? Do they appreciate that?
* We gave away too much for free. The freetards complained the most and required the most customer support and education. Very few of them converted to paying customers. When will a customer be forced to decide if your product is right for them? Why will they leave your free plan? Is your free plan free for you?
* Those that did convert only stayed with us through the middle part of their growth cycle. Once they got big enough, they also had enough money to hire an internal team to perform our service for them, believing that this would cost no more and lead to more control. Are your customers going to grow with you and are you going to grow with them? How? Why won't they leave when they get big enough?
* We spent our balance sheet on lawsuits instead of marketing or product development, defending a feature customers liked but was not core to our business. Why are you in court instead of on shelves?
* We saw the coming trend to run application software in a browser, 20 years too early. We based our product on unproven technology which we had no ability to improve ourselves (included hardware and software), and our prices were not competitive with the current technology. Despite this, we did have positive press and some sales. What, exactly are you selling, and why would anyone buy it? Can you find a practical compromise between your big vision and what people want to buy now?
* We were one company with two orthogonal products. One product was easy to understand and visually attractive -- it got all the press. The other was invisible, extremely powerful, but hard to explain to a broad audience. This made the company feel unbalanced, with razzle-dazzle that didn't lead to sales of the more valuable product. How do your products support each other?
Re: Ask HN: Why did your startup fail?
#36If you're looking for potholes to avoid when starting a company, I'd encourage you to read Inspired by Marty Cagan. Not a startup book per se, but a fantastic read on how to eliminate the 4 types of risks for any product (value, usability, feasibility, and business viability risks).
Re: Ask HN: Why did your startup fail?
#37Re: Ask HN: Why did your startup fail?
#38In both cases, I had an idea for a product that didn't exist yet and that I was confident I could build. In both cases, I failed to appreciate how quickly other well-funded startups would show up and beat me to market with products that were more robust than anything I could build on my own in my free time. (To be clear: I'm not saying they stole my idea. I'm saying good ideas have a tendency to be arrived at independently by many.)
I've also been involved with many clients and employers who have looked to cash-in on startup ideas. For some, the ideas were just bad (oops). But for every good idea, someone else did it better and faster.
Lessons I've learned:
1) Not every idea is a good one. (Learned this very early on, thankfully, but everyone thinks their ideas are awesome... and they're not.)
2) If I have a truly good idea for a new product that does not exist yet, the odds are exceptionally high that lots of other people have that idea too. So time is not on my side.
3) This is where the VC value is. VCs can get you the resources to build a team, launch an MVP, and scale. If there are no VCs at my table, the odds are they're funding someone else that I'll eventually see as a competitor.
All of which is to say: If I were to do it again, I'd focus all of my initial energies on getting funded and building a team. Going it alone is just a terrible idea, unless it's a passion project that I don't mind seeing "fail".
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#39Re: Ask HN: Why did your startup fail?
#40To quote PG: "startups don't fail, founders give up"