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Not saying anything about Go necessarily, but Google being behind a technology doesn’t exactly give me a warm and fuzzy that it will be “supported for years to come”.
What does it even mean for it to be "supported for years to come"? It's not a web service.
I'm pretty sure those writing and building software today would like it to build and run 6 months from now.
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What does it even mean for it to be "supported for years to come"? It's not a web service.
Keep the language working on newer devices, update the compiler, expose new features of the hardware etc... Even if you don't mind if the language itself stops evolving you still need somebody to maintain it. I'm fine coding in C99 without the features of newer standards but if I can't find a C compiler that can efficiently target modern architectures I have a problem.
What language is not driven by a handful of decision maker? Even what could be argued to be committee driven languages, like say Java, are very much controlled by a handful of committee members.
Why not petition Google to donate the Go project to the Cloud Native Computing Foundation, since many of the core technologies (including Kubernetes, Prometheus) that make up the cloud native space are written in Go?
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Exactly this. And this mailing list post exemplifies that even Googlers don't realize the soft power they have. How many of us get to be lunch or drinking buddies with Russ Cox or Rob Pike? Googlers have much easier access to both than the external community and those are really the only two that matter.
This situation feels similar to the need of politicians to divest any potential conflicts of interest. I would not accept “just trust me” as a response. As long as there’s a possible conflict of interest, there will be ethical concerns.
With the key difference being that you can use a different language and achieve the same results you want. You can't just pick a different government.
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Source code is of limited use if a company decides it is no longer interested and never allowed external developers into the processes that would have, over time, given them the necessary context to run with the project. At that point the only real hope the project has is that some nucleus of people quit the former sponsoring company to keep it going.
Almost every major significant OSS project has a corporate sponsor (usually in the form of paid employees doing the bulk of contributions). Don't see the problem with that. And it's usually problems people are solving are work that instigate most of these contributions, so it's a damn good thing Go has a company like Google to act as steward, regardless of all the useless FUD people like to pretend "may" happen becau…
Your arguments are deeply cargo cult-ish: they lack any rational train of thought and boil down to an empty belief on how a greater power will eventuall deliver good things to those who have faith in it.
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Does it matter where the person worked? Python definitely was not Google’s or any other corp’s.
Of course it matters. That's the whole reason the Go Is Google's Language post exists. And the whole reason the response exists, and this very comment thread, too.
There is a difference between open source and open governance. Go is open source but the governance is controlled by Google. For example, the committee that accepts proposals is all Google employees and a subset of the core team, if I read it right. From what I can tell, they definition of consensus is that of this group rather than the community at large. This has business decision implications. Those who have had i…
Also, by that logic we shouldn't use Linux since a single man gets to pick what goes into the kernel. Same for most relevant tools which are mantained by a few individuals.
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What does it even mean for it to be "supported for years to come"? It's not a web service.
> What does it even mean for it to be "supported for years to come"? It's not a web service. I'm pretty sure those writing and building software today would like it to build and run 6 months from now.