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Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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It will be interesting to see whether they can match Intel in single-threaded performance across the board, and not just some carefully-selected benchmarks. This would be the first time since the Core2/Athlon64 days.

Single threaded performance is irrelevant at this point

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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No mention of it, but the pressure should still be on AMD to open source or allow firmware disable of their Platform "Security" Processor. I would really like to be more enthusiastic for my next build to use something like this, but all my computers are presently trustable in a way new platforms with proprietary coprocessors that haven't seen me_cleaner support cannot achieve. It really sucks to give Intel money - it…

Have you considered using the POWER9-based Raptor Blackbird uATX board for your next build? The firmware is open, and they advertise it as a feature:

https://www.raptorcs.com/content/BK1B02/intro.html

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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$39: https://www.newegg.com/visiontek-radeon-5450-900860/p/N82E16... Hardly the latest technology but you can plug a monitor into it.

ah the OG king of HTPC/Media PC Graphics card. I used to have one in a HTPC paired with an Intel Q6600

Wow, that was a powerful (hot) CPU for an HTPC!

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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post #19

It will be interesting to see whether they can match Intel in single-threaded performance across the board, and not just some carefully-selected benchmarks. This would be the first time since the Core2/Athlon64 days.

Single threaded performance is irrelevant at this point

On the contrary, it is absolutely crucial for some of us (yes, even for developers). I work with an interactively compiled language (Clojure and ClojureScript) and while I rarely do full "builds", I care a lot about recompiling single files and reloading them in the browser. That is not a multi-threaded job and requires single-threaded performance.

This is why when looking at iMacs, I'd rather get the iMac than the iMac Pro. Multiple cores just aren't as important to me as is single-core performance.

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Finally! I’ve been using a Ryzen 1800x since it’s release. Unfortunately, it has some stability issues and I’ve been waiting to upgrade on the Ryzen 3000, 7nm line. This is going to be a solid 75%+ boost to performance, given I regularly max out my machines threads. Pretty amazing improvement in 2 years.

My desktop w/a Ryzen 1800x still randomly freezes. I disabled most of the power saving features in the UEFI, which definitely reduced the frequency but it still happens on rare occasions. :(

Mine does too, that is until I run

    sudo ZenStates-Linux/zenstates.py --c6-disable
(I've got 29 days of uptime right now and the last reboot was due to a system upgrade)

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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> AMD just aren't selling many CPUs to business desktop system integrators, partly due to dubious tactics by Intel to keep them out of the market. If you sell most of your CPUs to enthusiasts, it just doesn't make sense to squander die area on a crappy iGPU. I'm a developer, and I want fast build times. I don't need a dedicated GPU for that. Right now I'm squandering money and power on a dedicated GPU which is probab…

Same here. I recently did a Ryzen 7 build with a Thin-ITX board. https://penguindreams.org/blog/louqe-ghost-s1-build-and-revi... I have a separate gaming machine, and would have rather just used the integrated for my Linux machine. It doesn't look like AMD is refreshing their APU lineup at all in this release. Did I miss it, or are there no APUs in the list?

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Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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What will you be doing that will actually use 24 threads?

A common developer scenario can involve a few things that will eat a lot of threads: 1. playing some background music 2. running a local database 3. running a local webserver 4. running a browser 5. running an ide 6. running all of that stuff concurrently while testing the backend code 7. doing builds which are multi threaded in near linear speedup fashion in many languages/environments. I don't know if 12 cores 24 l…

Common developer scenario: make -j24

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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I'm really looking forward to this. But one issue with current AMD cpu is that you have to buy a desktop GPU even when you are not doing any kind of gaming and such. I know intel iGPU haven't been terribly good but for work they are good enough and is one less part and cheaper to boot. For same performance a Ryzen 3rd gen + gpu might still be cheaper but the price advantage gets reduced. I haven't really seen that me…

If you want a discrete GPU with the same featureset as a modern integrated Intel GPU - with basic desktop features such as 1) being able to decode modern video codecs like HEVC 2) prime Windows and (especially) Linux support or 3) modern video outputs such as HDMI 2.0 - you need to buy a Radeon RX550. This will still set you back more than $80 and add another fan to your build. A Radeon R7 240 from 6 years ago will s…

Even the newest AMD Gpus don't have full VP9 (Youtube) acceleration.

Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> AMD just aren't selling many CPUs to business desktop system integrators, partly due to dubious tactics by Intel to keep them out of the market. If you sell most of your CPUs to enthusiasts, it just doesn't make sense to squander die area on a crappy iGPU. I'm a developer, and I want fast build times. I don't need a dedicated GPU for that. Right now I'm squandering money and power on a dedicated GPU which is probab…

Same here. I recently did a Ryzen 7 build with a Thin-ITX board. https://penguindreams.org/blog/louqe-ghost-s1-build-and-revi... I have a separate gaming machine, and would have rather just used the integrated for my Linux machine. It doesn't look like AMD is refreshing their APU lineup at all in this release. Did I miss it, or are there no APUs in the list?

The APU/mobile chips typically come later. Raven Ridge chips were released after their desktop counterparts, and the Zen+ (12nm) 3000U series mobile chips were announced only a few months ago.
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