No 5GHz, I'm disappointed. Was considering switching to AMD, but Intel looks better. I'll wait for Threadripper announce, though, may be they'll release something powerful.
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Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced
#182I'm really looking forward to this. But one issue with current AMD cpu is that you have to buy a desktop GPU even when you are not doing any kind of gaming and such. I know intel iGPU haven't been terribly good but for work they are good enough and is one less part and cheaper to boot. For same performance a Ryzen 3rd gen + gpu might still be cheaper but the price advantage gets reduced. I haven't really seen that me…
Mobo manufacturers could solder some weak GPU on board, but nobody seems to be interested so I guess they did their homework and decided it didn't make any economical sense.
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#183Now imagine a Threadripper with the Zen2 cores, higher IPC and frequency would be certainly welcome. Have the 32 core 2990WX and it's an incredible CPU for compiling large C++ programs, running big test suites and never having to worry about running too many tasks at the same time.
Conjecture on my part, but I wouldn't be surprised if we also see a 64 core Threadripper - there's going to be a 64 core Epyc: https://wccftech.com/amd-7nm-epyc-64-core-32-core-cpus-specs... Although they may save it for a "Zen2+" or something similar, like they did with 32 core Threadripper
I am specifically waiting for 64c Threadripper. Would be also great if 32GB UDIMM ECC became available by that time to bump up RAM from 128GB to 256GB. That computer could then last a decade.
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
What kind of player count are you getting? I have been running 4 players with one of the most taxing modpacks on a mid tier digital ocean VPS with no hitches. Not many players I guess but in case you were curious if you could use a VPS. Even when we had multiple excavators sending thousands of entities through sorting pipelines it was stil doing surprisingly well.
A max size reactor in minecraft consists of 50000 Tileentities and it only produces a few million RF/t enough to power a handful of max tier void miners. Thousands isn't exactly impressive.
Well we had a max size reactor powering our excavators so I guess we had those entities too. I didn't realise it took so many entities to run. Not to mention the hundreds of other pieces in our worlds automation puzzle and it was all spread out quite far apart, with chunk loaders maintaining the networks presence. Things were routed, crushed, smelted, crafted and eventually stored or utilized, all automatically.
Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced
#185No 5GHz, I'm disappointed. Was considering switching to AMD, but Intel looks better. I'll wait for Threadripper announce, though, may be they'll release something powerful.
This may be an oversimplification. There is more to it than just megahertz or gigahertz. The most important metric in this case is work done per clock, on average.
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#186Is there any clarity on how much RAM the 3900X supports? Presumably can do 4x32GB, which would make for a great little bioinformatics workstation. Am very excited with this chip and Windows bringing the full Linux kernel - can do everything I want at home with just one fairly cheap PC and no dual booting. Good times!
Are 32GB sticks of fast registered DDR4 still absurdly expensive?
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#187Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced
#188No 5GHz, I'm disappointed. Was considering switching to AMD, but Intel looks better. I'll wait for Threadripper announce, though, may be they'll release something powerful.
This may be an oversimplification. There is more to it than just megahertz or gigahertz. The most important metric in this case is work done per clock, on average.
I don't believe that AMD made better architecture than Intel in regards to performance. They might be similar, but definitely not 10% better. So in the end it comes to frequency (and core count for niche tasks).
Re: AMD Ryzen 3000 announced
#189I'm really looking forward to this. But one issue with current AMD cpu is that you have to buy a desktop GPU even when you are not doing any kind of gaming and such. I know intel iGPU haven't been terribly good but for work they are good enough and is one less part and cheaper to boot. For same performance a Ryzen 3rd gen + gpu might still be cheaper but the price advantage gets reduced. I haven't really seen that me…
>But one issue with current AMD cpu is that you have to buy a desktop GPU even when you are not doing any kind of gaming and such. AMD just aren't selling many CPUs to business desktop system integrators, partly due to dubious tactics by Intel to keep them out of the market. If you sell most of your CPUs to enthusiasts, it just doesn't make sense to squander die area on a crappy iGPU. Gamers obviously want a fast GPU…
> AMD just aren't selling many CPUs to business desktop system integrators, partly due to dubious tactics by Intel to keep them out of the market. If you sell most of your CPUs to enthusiasts, it just doesn't make sense to squander die area on a crappy iGPU.
I'm a developer, and I want fast build times. I don't need a dedicated GPU for that.
Right now I'm squandering money and power on a dedicated GPU which is probably idling at 0.0000001% rendering a composited 2D desktop in its sleep.
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#190I watched the keynote live. I'm sold, my desktop is most likely going to be a Ryzen (although not the 8/16 monster, come on, it's a desktop, if I need high core count, I have stuff at work for that).
The "monster" is the 12/24 and that's still only 105W. For a real monster you'd need a Threadripper. The cheaper 8/16 at 65W/329$ looks like a great choice. But I guess 6/12 for 130$ less is also nice.