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make -j24
Be sure to have enough RAM, so you will not run out of it. (For some reason, when building projects like LLVM with -j 16, 32 GB w/o swap may be not enough. With -j 2, it is enough, but takes an eternity).
Yup. Just waiting on the benchmarks from independent reviewers and to see how XFR in this generation works but I’ll be getting a Ryzen 9 if everything checks out. 24 threads will be amazing for local development (microk8s, and others) when I’m not gaming and save me from having to build a separate box.
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You can get practically silent air coolers for ~$40 now too. The only reason I would do liquid cooling now is for the fun of putting one together.
Isn't AIO liquid cooling still a good solution for decent overclocks without emptying your wallet for a custom loop? To my knowledge, those $40 silent air coolers perform well but still can't match a big liquid radiator.
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Having 24 threads doesn't mean that -j24 is the sweet spot. I have a machine 56 thread Xenon machine for building git.git, and I find that with its sockets/threads-per-core/threads-per-socket of 2/2/14 the sweet spot is closer to sockets*threads-per-socket = -j28. Things speed up rather linearly up to -j28, but once I get past -j28 (say -j32) it levels off, and -j56 starts being counterproductive. Same thing with the…
And on architectures like EPYC you run into NUMA issues and having to pin things to certain cores, right?
Biggest surprise seems to be the 65W 8/16 3700X. Hopefully that means a bit of overclocking headroom.
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Could be that it'll still continue to have stability issues. For some reason Ryzens are extremely picky when it comes to memory. There's really no guarantee that 3-rd gen will resolve this issue. It's to the point where e.g. Corsair makes memory specifically designed to work with AMD CPUs. This memory typically contains Samsung B-die chips which work fairly well.
No, the stability issues they're talking about are on a release day 1800X. It's not memory issues, and I've never had memory issues with either of my Ryzen processors. This is the issue they're certainly talking about: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-Se... And it is assuredly not a problem with any Ryzen processors manufactured after the very first few months.
I never experienced it myself but in my BIOS there's an option about "power on idle" that's suggested to not turn off for compatibility (I don't recall the correct words but I could check).
It usually depends on MB manufacturers and BIOS/AGESA versions.
What's the outlook for AMD to provide the kind of performance counters and performance counter accuracy that is needed for rr?
It's a debugger from Mozilla that works by recording and replaying program executions.
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Having 24 threads doesn't mean that -j24 is the sweet spot. I have a machine 56 thread Xenon machine for building git.git, and I find that with its sockets/threads-per-core/threads-per-socket of 2/2/14 the sweet spot is closer to sockets*threads-per-socket = -j28. Things speed up rather linearly up to -j28, but once I get past -j28 (say -j32) it levels off, and -j56 starts being counterproductive. Same thing with the…
And on architectures like EPYC you run into NUMA issues and having to pin things to certain cores, right?
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In all seriousness, I've been wanting better single threaded performance for running a Minecraft server.
What kind of player count are you getting? I have been running 4 players with one of the most taxing modpacks on a mid tier digital ocean VPS with no hitches. Not many players I guess but in case you were curious if you could use a VPS. Even when we had multiple excavators sending thousands of entities through sorting pipelines it was stil doing surprisingly well.
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>But one issue with current AMD cpu is that you have to buy a desktop GPU even when you are not doing any kind of gaming and such. AMD just aren't selling many CPUs to business desktop system integrators, partly due to dubious tactics by Intel to keep them out of the market. If you sell most of your CPUs to enthusiasts, it just doesn't make sense to squander die area on a crappy iGPU. Gamers obviously want a fast GPU…
That is probably true, but if I am buying a GPU for hundreds of dollars I don't care as much about the cost of the CPU. I think AMD needs to do something if they want to fulfill the potential of Ryzen. (Removing or minimizing the role of the chipset might be interesting for example).