What's an example of a major site with a good community?
Metafilter.
Instagram has a pretty positive feeling too.
If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)
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Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)
#12It is your fault, but, nevertheless I disagree that it is bad to not do stuff about it (although of course you can do it anyways if you want to). I prefer not to have such stuff; I allow any except that I do not have unlimited bandwidth ahd disk space, so there is that consideration only. Clients can use kill files and other filters (if accessing them by NNTP) to avoid messages they do not like. Messages can also be copied on other servers, which may have different policies; I do not policy your server that copies the messages, but only not to overly flood the bandwidth. My software, called "sqlnetnews", deliberately does not support control messages (you can still post messages with a "Supersedes" header, since it can still be useful sometimes, but it won't result in the old version deleted; it does, however, reject any messages with a "Approved" header). Maybe you hate me for it, but Dave Hayes has "Freedom Knights" and it is like that (but in my case, for Unusenet rather than Usenet). While cancels can be posted (as long as the "Approved" header is omitted), they are not processed. I will not force anyone to use these services and will not disallow others from making echo services (a feature of Unusenet, designed to enforce that you have freedom globally even if not locally (local policies are up to the server administrator, not me)).
Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)
#13Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)
#14What's an example of a major site with a good community?
lobster is pretty good platform but the content could be better
Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
free karma answer: "Hacker news"
Yeah no, when's the last time you've actually seen the rules enforced?
HN moderators are actually pretty active, but usually maintain a low profile compared to how things appear on other websites, so it can be harder to notice the work that they do.
Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)
#16I feel like Anil Dash is pretty much the last person who should be talking about internet “assholes”. He’s very often on the front lines of Twitter mobs and is generally extremely caustic. He should reflect on his own behavior online before preaching to anyone else.
Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)
#17What's an example of a major site with a good community?
Depends on what you mean by "major", but Metafilter is one example that comes to mind.
Honestly, though, I think "major site" and "good community" are in conflict. Facebook's revenue is something like $0.12 per user-day. Twitter's is circa $0.07. It is at best extremely difficult to do effective policing of users with that kind of money to spend.
You can use ML, etc, to do the first cut. But real anti-abuse work basically requires humans. (Or not-yet-existant strong AI.) So my general take is that ad-supported social media is a dead end as far as real community goes. Doing it right takes either real money or dedicated volunteers. And probably both.
Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
free karma answer: "Hacker news"
Yeah no, when's the last time you've actually seen the rules enforced?
All the time. I see dang smoothing things out like almost daily. You can also turn on “showdead” in your profile options, and maybe you’ll become more aware of it.
Re: If your website's full of assholes, it's your fault (2011)
#19This post is more reasonable for smaller curated communities, but as we can see from, well, every large social website that exists currently, it can be difficult to scale. I'm curious what the other thinks the solution would be to an obvious example like Twitter. When a website consists of so many groups of users that everyone's definition of 'assholes' contradicts the others, you find that banning them gets to be pr…
Posting on a website should be a right, not a privilege. Having trouble moderating so much content? Limit the amount of content that can be posted, and make users earn ranks to be able to post more (so there’s an incentive to play by the rules as to not lose the high-ranking account).
Speaking of standards of “asshole” being different between communities, well, the website should have a set of rules/guidelines defining what “asshole” means, and those who aren’t happy are free to go to a different website or make their own.