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Young White Dudes Are Decidedly Opting Out of the Whole ‘Job’ Thing

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People are leaving the typical job market because the typical job market abandoned them. I don't know if this is me just glorifying the past, but I've heard people say that the the company they used to work for would somewhat look out for them and that it was expected that you would stick around for a long time. Nowadays it's more expected to hop from one job to another.

It's sad because we've lost a lot of great developers to this notion that the only way to move up is to move on. It sucks, but it seems like companies these days think they're buying you in at a particular price and it's ok to drip feed you raises over the years, and then are surprised when you move on to another company willing to pay you what you're really worth at that point.

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When the boomers in HR bend over backwards to get more "women in X" and more "minorities in X", then "young white dudes" are going to take the hint and make their own arrangements. That, and these kids (regardless of race or gender) are getting f-ed in general. I see so many places paying them less than what I was making in their position 20 years ago, and life didn't get any less expensive since then.

I'm not that young of a brownish white male, but just got word through a side channel that I was rejected for a position because I'm a "white dude". Really fucking lame.

At my current company, there are no white guys in middle management. Zero. Let that sink in.

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"He (Madowitz, economist/researcher) believes that men taking on more flexible jobs may help a new generation of fathers become much more capable of taking on domestic responsibilities."

I read this in the article, and I made a link to the recently-HN-front-paged article from NPR about suburban moms entering the gig economy.

- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20015638

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When the boomers in HR bend over backwards to get more "women in X" and more "minorities in X", then "young white dudes" are going to take the hint and make their own arrangements. That, and these kids (regardless of race or gender) are getting f-ed in general. I see so many places paying them less than what I was making in their position 20 years ago, and life didn't get any less expensive since then.

And for the downvoters: sorry, but discrimination is discrimination. Avocado toast boy never kept a woman under his thumb or made people use a different water fountain. Why should he be penalized for what someone else's grandparents did?

"Still has a higher chance of being hired, overall" is not being penalized.

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post #9

Fact-light, moral panicky, vaguely anti-white / anti-male filler. That's 30 seconds of my life I won't get back. Hope to save a few readers the effort.

    [Investing in] crypto played a big part in having any actual money to survive

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> [T]he most pervasive cohort (white men) are retreating from the labor force... could potentially bring about a positive sea change in the way families approach employment

How can the author accept the premise that young white dudes are opting out of the whole "job" thing and not at least entertain the possibility that they'll be opting out of the whole "family" thing too?

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post #9

Fact-light, moral panicky, vaguely anti-white / anti-male filler. That's 30 seconds of my life I won't get back. Hope to save a few readers the effort.

It starts out by painting a picture of a modern small business owner with an entrepreneurial spirit...It's definitely a blatantly biased political piece

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post #9

Fact-light, moral panicky, vaguely anti-white / anti-male filler. That's 30 seconds of my life I won't get back. Hope to save a few readers the effort.

The article also fails to provide a single statistic or study to back up any of its claims.

Re: Young White Dudes Are Decidedly Opting Out of the Whole ‘Job’ Thing

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> [T]he most pervasive cohort (white men) are retreating from the labor force... could potentially bring about a positive sea change in the way families approach employment How can the author accept the premise that young white dudes are opting out of the whole "job" thing and not at least entertain the possibility that they'll be opting out of the whole "family" thing too?

>entertain the possibility that they'll be opting out of the whole "family" thing

Maybe that possibility has been entertained and is seen as positive

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