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Show HN: nextdns.io – A Combination of Cloudflare DNS and Pi-Hole

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Re: Show HN: nextdns.io – A Combination of Cloudflare DNS and Pi-Hole

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Post by yegle »

judge2020 wrote: post #25
yegle wrote: post #23

I don't understand why any privacy conscious person would choose a hosted service instead of self-hosting your own solution. Implementing the whole thing (modulo the anycast IP, which is the only thing I did not use) is easy. I have a docker-compose file which does the whole stack: 1. Unbound DNS which provides DNS-over-TLS service at port 853. It forward request to my local pihole's 53 port. 2. Pihole forward reques…

Could you share your compose file or the images you're using?

I just posted it https://github.com/yegle/your-dns.

Re: Show HN: nextdns.io – A Combination of Cloudflare DNS and Pi-Hole

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Post by yegle »

underwater wrote: post #28
yegle wrote: post #23

I don't understand why any privacy conscious person would choose a hosted service instead of self-hosting your own solution. Implementing the whole thing (modulo the anycast IP, which is the only thing I did not use) is easy. I have a docker-compose file which does the whole stack: 1. Unbound DNS which provides DNS-over-TLS service at port 853. It forward request to my local pihole's 53 port. 2. Pihole forward reques…

You just answered your own question. A self hosted solution requires a lot of domain and technical knowledge to set up. To you it might seem trivial, but that's an insurmountable barrier to many. This project seems to occupy the same niche as products like Blokada. Most of the benefits of a self hosted solution, with a much lower barrier to entry.

Depending on your goal. If you just want to have an ad blocking DNS server then nextdns.io is fine. But if you also want to have some control over the privacy issue involved in using a public DNS server, you should seriously consider hosting it yourself.

Re: Show HN: nextdns.io – A Combination of Cloudflare DNS and Pi-Hole

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Post by bscphil »

freedomben wrote: post #6
nextdns wrote: post #2

We've been working super hard on nextdns.io, a cloud-based private DNS service that gives you full control over what is allowed or blocked on your devices. Here is a few things you can do with it: - Block malicious websites, trackers, ads, and more by combining the most popular blocklists out there, all updated in real-time (100+ lists to choose from). - Set your own privacy requirements: you decide what type of logs…

Is your source code open? This looks really cool. I'm nervous about entrusting someone with stuff as sensitive as DNS. If this is all it appears to be, I may be a paying customer (tho I try to only use/pay for free-as-in-speech software).

>I try to only use/pay for free-as-in-speech software

I would like to see more software adopt this model. Can you give a few examples of things you support? Are they all pay-for-hosting services, or are there cases where the software itself is for sale?

Re: Show HN: nextdns.io – A Combination of Cloudflare DNS and Pi-Hole

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Post by elitistphoenix »

nextdns wrote: post #24
sergiomattei wrote: post #21

How do you make money? How can I make sure you won't sell my data?

The service is free during beta, then freemium with low pricing tiers (something like free up to 500,000 DNS queries a month, then $0.99/month). We will tweak later based on actual costs at scale, but it will follow this logic. Selling data is against what we believe in and would also be counter-productive (everybody would stop using the service instantly).

Could your beta testers get a better deal? If not could we stay beta testers and get a better deal?

Re: Show HN: nextdns.io – A Combination of Cloudflare DNS and Pi-Hole

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Post by nextdns »

CraftThatBlock wrote: post #29
sneak wrote: post #20

Be advised: pi-hole ignores security issues in their product. https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/issues/2704

Just to know, this isn't using Pi-Hole (from what I understand). This is a "Pi-Hole-like" service.

Confirming that we are not using Pi-hole, the title is just a catchy way of explaining the service.

Re: Show HN: nextdns.io – A Combination of Cloudflare DNS and Pi-Hole

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Post by brians »

nextdns wrote: post #2

We've been working super hard on nextdns.io, a cloud-based private DNS service that gives you full control over what is allowed or blocked on your devices. Here is a few things you can do with it: - Block malicious websites, trackers, ads, and more by combining the most popular blocklists out there, all updated in real-time (100+ lists to choose from). - Set your own privacy requirements: you decide what type of logs…

What about client subnet?

Re: Show HN: nextdns.io – A Combination of Cloudflare DNS and Pi-Hole

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Post by terragon »

nextdns wrote: post #2

We've been working super hard on nextdns.io, a cloud-based private DNS service that gives you full control over what is allowed or blocked on your devices. Here is a few things you can do with it: - Block malicious websites, trackers, ads, and more by combining the most popular blocklists out there, all updated in real-time (100+ lists to choose from). - Set your own privacy requirements: you decide what type of logs…

I tried using it. I'm in India, and while Cloudflare and Google DNS consistently resolve in 60-70ms, nextdns takes between 400-700ms for the first resolution and consistently 250ms for the same query repeated (I presume it caches the results?)

Should I assume you've gotten a huge spike in traffic because of this HN post? If yes, I don't mind trying again in a few days, but unless things improve, I wouldn't be able to use it despite loving it in concept (the UI of your implementation is great too). I don't want to discourage you folks, since you've done a great job with the rest of it.

Thanks for your efforts.

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