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Ask HN: Do you miss 90s simplicity?

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Re: Ask HN: Do you miss 90s simplicity?

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Yes. The thing I miss the most is the sense that I, and everyone around me, used to be mentally in the same place they were physically.

Obviously people were distracted or preoccupied from time to time, perhaps they had a sick far away relative, say, that dominated their thoughts.

But those kind of situations were the exceptions. Now literally every single person you interact with is mentally in the middle of several conversations with people who aren’t there over text, is halfway through an article or blog post, and is in the midst of judging their own success in gaining attention for the photo they just posted.

You can be in a room with 10 people, but only 10% of each of them is actually present and engaged in the room they are in.

I count myself in this group too of course. In fact right now I’m having a conversation on HN instead of being engaged in the real world.

It kind of sucks.

Re: Ask HN: Do you miss 90s simplicity?

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Yes. The thing I miss the most is the sense that I, and everyone around me, used to be mentally in the same place they were physically. Obviously people were distracted or preoccupied from time to time, perhaps they had a sick far away relative, say, that dominated their thoughts. But those kind of situations were the exceptions. Now literally every single person you interact with is mentally in the middle of several…

Truth. In the 90's, if you went to a party and sat in a corner reading a book, it was usually....odd. The idea was that you were supposed to at least try to be interacting with others. Some of us were geeks, some of us found social interaction difficult, but since there wasn't a real substitute for it, we had to stick it out and learn how to be with people. And then we got the benefits of being with people.

Now there's always something else you can do at any moment. I feel like some younger folks I know (in their 20's) don't have the same capacity for understanding their place in the social universe. Social media / phones etc. give a simulacrum of social experience so you never have to really stretch yourself and grow these new skill sets.

Re: Ask HN: Do you miss 90s simplicity?

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One big academia/industry thing about the early '90s is that CS students and business students were very different.

Not that either category were bad people, but they thought and acted differently, and I'd say that diversity turned out to be more important than I realized at the time.

Re: Ask HN: Do you miss 90s simplicity?

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Let me answer your question with another question. How old are you?

Because I'm in my 40s, which means I was in my 20s during the 1990s. And from my perspective, it was not a notably simpler time back then than it is today. It was not some pastoral idyll, it was just a time a lot like now, except it was a little harder to get a hold of people.

But I do notice that when I talk to people in their 20s and 30s, they often talk about the '90s as some kind of dramatically simpler time. But that's not because of anything about the '90s; it's because they were children during the '90s, and people of all ages look back on their childhood as a simpler time. This is true even of people who grew up in objectively much more difficult times, like the 1930s and '40s. It's not that the world children grow up in isn't complicated, it's that they don't comprehend all the complications. You don't start to appreciate that stuff until you reach adulthood. So to everybody, childhood is like a lost paradise.

This is part of why nostalgia is such a seductive trap. It's so easy to look back on the past and think that it was something it wasn't. So if you try to make it your mission to restore that lost paradise, to restore something that never really existed in the first place, all you end up doing is chasing shadows.

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