Clip shows misinformation still has a home on Facebook

Geez, is this an op-ed or news? The article goes on and on about it being too late, energizing lies, human instinct, blah blah. It's clearly written to encourage censorship yet it's at a /news URL written by someone with the title of "reporter". Gross.

Re: Clip shows misinformation still has a home on Facebook

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Post by ekianjo » Sat, May 25, 2019, 2:27 PM UTC

> Misrepresented occurrences such as this are used to energise lies that have bubbled around in the far reaches of the internet for a while, waiting for their moment.

You don't need to wait for the Internet, most large media groups are propaganda tools for their own political side. No need to do any "deep fake", "selective editing" is all that's needed to take things out of context and publish a different narrative based on what you want to portray.

Now the question is, what do we do about propaganda, regardless of the medium?

Re: Clip shows misinformation still has a home on Facebook

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Post by Browun » Sat, May 25, 2019, 2:27 PM UTC

> In other words, we allow people to post it as a form of expression, but we’re not going to show it at the top of News Feed.

So back to the mantra of, "trust us, we'll show you what you need to know"? I thought that was exactly the attitude that got them in to this mess in the first place?!?

Re: Clip shows misinformation still has a home on Facebook

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Post by bqqyz » Sat, May 25, 2019, 2:29 PM UTC

I think it's not Facebook's responsibility to censor stuff on that's posted in their network but still:

Whoever receives and watches this video on Facebook is engaged in right-wing groups/pages/circles and was unlikely to vote for Pelosi anyway.

(I'm not American so I don't know who she is, I guess the continuation of Clinton?)

Re: Clip shows misinformation still has a home on Facebook

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Post by nemild » Sat, May 25, 2019, 2:31 PM UTC

For more context, see this piece by Renee DiResta highlighting the difference between free speech and free reach (previously, there was little distinction between the two at Facebook):

https://www.wired.com/story/free-speech-is-not-the-same-as-f...

Re: Clip shows misinformation still has a home on Facebook

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Post by bqqyz » Sat, May 25, 2019, 2:32 PM UTC

kodablah wrote: post #4

Geez, is this an op-ed or news? The article goes on and on about it being too late, energizing lies, human instinct, blah blah. It's clearly written to encourage censorship yet it's at a /news URL written by someone with the title of "reporter". Gross.

It's the BBC, they are not known for their quality.

Re: Clip shows misinformation still has a home on Facebook

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Post by golemotron » Sat, May 25, 2019, 2:37 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #5

> Misrepresented occurrences such as this are used to energise lies that have bubbled around in the far reaches of the internet for a while, waiting for their moment. You don't need to wait for the Internet, most large media groups are propaganda tools for their own political side. No need to do any "deep fake", "selective editing" is all that's needed to take things out of context and publish a different narrative b…

And what do we do about propaganda that we don't see as propaganda because it reinforces our view of the world.

"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" translates to "one person's information is another person's propaganda."