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Re: Crossfit Inc. suspends use of Facebook and associated properties

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Post by tomp » Fri, May 24, 2019, 9:20 PM UTC

timClicks wrote: post #156

tomp wrote: post #154

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I don't bench that often, but I do it without a spotter or safety gear. I use normal grip (not the thumbless "suicide" grip), never go to failure, do medium-low weight/medium-high reps (8-12), and most importantly, I don't lock the weights, so worst comes to worst, I can always just tilt the bar and drop the weights...

If the worst comes to worst, push the bar down to your belly. You have saved your neck this way, giving yourself the chance to tilt the bar in a controlled manner after a breath. If you are already failing, tilting the bar might be too much without more O2

Sure, but "failure" isn't "dropping the bar on your throat"... that would be catastrophic failure that shouldn't really happen (and not even a spotter could save you). When I lift, "failure" is usually just "can't lift the bar to the top" so there's more than enough strength to lower it a bit to tilt it...

Re: Crossfit Inc. suspends use of Facebook and associated properties

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Post by nextlevelwizard » Sat, May 25, 2019, 4:18 AM UTC

ixtli wrote: post #148

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #97

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While many aspects of CrossFit are bad (well mainly doing weight lifting against time constraint) there is nothing special about CrossFit that causes rhabdomyolysis. As long as you listen to your body and don't start by pressing gas peddle straight to floor it is fine. I do not actively participate in CrossFit, but sometimes I add some CrossFit-like sets into my training.

Pretending CrossFit is just a collection of exercise ignores reality. It's also a culture and that culture is what creates the conditions under which people get rhabdo.

Is there some stats on how many cases there are? Because I suspect it isn’t that high. Part of all strength sports is pushing each other, but like with every hobby there are people who take it too far

Re: Crossfit Inc. suspends use of Facebook and associated properties

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Post by dsl » Sat, May 25, 2019, 4:36 AM UTC

smsm42 wrote: post #123

dsl wrote: post #120

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I'm not judging CrossFit on the program or its value. I take great issue with this straight up anti-vaxx type of thinking: "Facebook is acting in the service of food and beverage industry interests by deleting the accounts of communities that have identified the corrupted nutritional science responsible for unchecked global chronic disease." science is responsible for disease, listen to us instead

Replacing "corrupted nutritional science" with just "science", as if they deny science as a concept, is a very dishonest rhetorical trick. We have seen very bad nutritional advice given under the guise of "nutritional science" for years, and now we know that advice was very bad. We're still not entirely sure, as far as I know, how good nutritional advice looks like, in many cases, and it may be completely appropriate…

Using it with the tone that "Big Doritos" is buying off Facebook to help silence dissenting voices in nutrition is disingenuous.

Sure there is lots of bad advice floating around - but claiming a conspiracy requires some hard evidence be put forth.

Re: Crossfit Inc. suspends use of Facebook and associated properties

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Post by smsm42 » Sat, May 25, 2019, 1:11 PM UTC

dsl wrote: post #163

smsm42 wrote: post #123

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Replacing "corrupted nutritional science" with just "science", as if they deny science as a concept, is a very dishonest rhetorical trick. We have seen very bad nutritional advice given under the guise of "nutritional science" for years, and now we know that advice was very bad. We're still not entirely sure, as far as I know, how good nutritional advice looks like, in many cases, and it may be completely appropriate…

Using it with the tone that "Big Doritos" is buying off Facebook to help silence dissenting voices in nutrition is disingenuous. Sure there is lots of bad advice floating around - but claiming a conspiracy requires some hard evidence be put forth.

Depending of what you call "conspiracy". Does US Government promoting disastrous nutritional advice for decades and pushing the food industry to produce what we now recognize as extremely unhealthy products qualify as "conspiracy"? Does reluctance of the industry to recognize just how bad those are because they sell extremely well and some are likely to be physiologically and psychologically addictive - constitute a "conspiracy"? Maybe not, since it happens in the open and evidence of it is literally in front of our own eyes every time we go to the supermarket. Does it make anything better if it's not qualified as "conspiracy"?