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Ship spies largest underwater eruption ever

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Re: Ship spies largest underwater eruption ever

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Post by scohesc »

googlemike wrote: post #6
cakeface wrote: post #2

Underwater volcanoes are responsible for climate change. Prove me wrong.

You, and opinions stated as facts by ignorant people are exactly what is wrong with the internet. I used to think everyone having a voice was a wonderful, liberating new freedom for the whole world. The last few years have really changed my mind.

That's really depressing that you think that way. That way of thinking is pretty dangerous. I know it's a "slippery slope", but thinking that certain people shouldn't express their opinions on things in a public place goes against everything the internet gave us so many years ago.

Re: Ship spies largest underwater eruption ever

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Post by ohashi »

It's interesting to read an article and come to HN hoping to find more interesting comments only to find one thread with stupid memes.

Is this the largest ever because we're just starting to be able to map this type of stuff or have we seen a lot of them and this is enormous?

Re: Ship spies largest underwater eruption ever

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Post by scohesc »

werdnapk wrote: post #4
cakeface wrote: post #2

Underwater volcanoes are responsible for climate change. Prove me wrong.

Humans are responsible for climate change. Prove me wrong.

Not responsible, but "contributing to". It's a natural process of the earth, but I don't deny we're rapidly accelerating it out of control.

Re: Ship spies largest underwater eruption ever

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Post by [deleted] »

ohashi wrote: post #13

It's interesting to read an article and come to HN hoping to find more interesting comments only to find one thread with stupid memes. Is this the largest ever because we're just starting to be able to map this type of stuff or have we seen a lot of them and this is enormous?

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Re: Ship spies largest underwater eruption ever

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Post by cobbzilla »

volkk wrote: post #15

is this too deep for a tsunami effect? can underwater volcanoes cause tsunamis?

The article says it’s too deep to cause a tsunami, at least where the quakes are now. If seismic activity starts moving towards land and a big quake is close enough, a shelf-collapse could cause one.

Re: Ship spies largest underwater eruption ever

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Post by foota »

cobbzilla wrote: post #17
volkk wrote: post #15

is this too deep for a tsunami effect? can underwater volcanoes cause tsunamis?

The article says it’s too deep to cause a tsunami, at least where the quakes are now. If seismic activity starts moving towards land and a big quake is close enough, a shelf-collapse could cause one.

That would be scary, seeing as I believe the largest tsunami ever was created via a similar mechanism.

Edit: not the largest, but large. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storegga_Slide

Re: Ship spies largest underwater eruption ever

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Post by mwfunk »

scohesc wrote: post #11
googlemike wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You, and opinions stated as facts by ignorant people are exactly what is wrong with the internet. I used to think everyone having a voice was a wonderful, liberating new freedom for the whole world. The last few years have really changed my mind.

That's really depressing that you think that way. That way of thinking is pretty dangerous. I know it's a "slippery slope", but thinking that certain people shouldn't express their opinions on things in a public place goes against everything the internet gave us so many years ago.

Everyone has a right to their own opinion, no one has a right to their own facts though. I get what you're saying but there are consequences to certain types of misinformation (ex.: anti-vaxxers). It's a complicated issue.

Re: Ship spies largest underwater eruption ever

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Post by LeifCarrotson »

mwfunk wrote: post #19
scohesc wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's really depressing that you think that way. That way of thinking is pretty dangerous. I know it's a "slippery slope", but thinking that certain people shouldn't express their opinions on things in a public place goes against everything the internet gave us so many years ago.

Everyone has a right to their own opinion, no one has a right to their own facts though. I get what you're saying but there are consequences to certain types of misinformation (ex.: anti-vaxxers). It's a complicated issue.

I think we're in a state of transition that will take a few decades to resolve itself.

In the past, it was difficult to get an idea published. Money and power are definitely not sufficient to show that someone's ideas should be listened to (in some cases, the converse is true), but they're at least weakly correlated to competence. Also, when the barrier to entry was higher, less was produced, so there was a lot more opportunity for coversight.

This lead to printed words and popular speech having an air of authority and truthfulness. I expect that this will be swiftly eroded, and replaced with more caution, as society adjusts.

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