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China unveils 600 kph maglev train prototype

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Re: China unveils 600 kph maglev train prototype

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Post by mlang23 »

christkv wrote: post #28
simion314 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your sentiment is popular this days with the big propaganda we see but is there any hint that what you say is true, maybe they stole it from other company or maybe in a country with such a large population you will have a large number of smart people.

Of course it’s propaganda the shocking thing is not that they are pushing for a China is bad story. It’s that they pretended it was not happening for the last decades eroding industries and blue collar jobs putting us in today’s situation where a totalitarian state governs most electronics manufacturing of the world including most of the supply chain.

I find it particularily morbid that both countries that seemingly fight over the tech leadership on thsi planet both have the death penalty. Makes it hard to make out the moral winner watching from afar :-( Also, given all the bad spying rep the US has, I am really not sure what is better: a US phone or a China phone... Both seem a very good way to get fucked over.

Re: China unveils 600 kph maglev train prototype

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Post by melling »

christkv wrote: post #6

In three years they developed the technology needed, more likely just ripped off the tech from Siemens on the Shanghai line.

The maglev they built 17 years ago for a billion dollars?

China has been using maglevs for a long time.

The low-medium maglevs seem quite useful too:

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/china-driverless-maglev-t...

Someday they’ll probably replace their 19,000 miles (soon 25,000) of high-speed rail with maglevs.

In the United States, people couldn’t be convinced to build high-speed rail and now the land is expensive.

Re: China unveils 600 kph maglev train prototype

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Post by simion314 »

ForHackernews wrote: post #37
simion314 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your sentiment is popular this days with the big propaganda we see but is there any hint that what you say is true, maybe they stole it from other company or maybe in a country with such a large population you will have a large number of smart people.

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I was not accusing the OP but the entire media, for months we have China is bad stories on the first page daily, before that was all about the Saudi Arabia and before that there was Russia (I do not remember what was before that). I prefer to ask for the actual information, someone said there is a lawsuit but did not link anything so far, this is what I wanted, less speculation and a bit more facts.

Re: China unveils 600 kph maglev train prototype

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Post by christkv »

ForHackernews wrote: post #37
simion314 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your sentiment is popular this days with the big propaganda we see but is there any hint that what you say is true, maybe they stole it from other company or maybe in a country with such a large population you will have a large number of smart people.

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I don’t understand the apologists either. This is not a lovely democratic state it’s probably histories most successful authoritarian gangster state in modern history. A future with an ascendant China wielding global military power is not going to be nice for anyone.

Re: China unveils 600 kph maglev train prototype

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Post by themanr »

gnode wrote: post #29

The cabin is interesting. There doesn't seem to be much visibility through the windows. I guess at such speeds the driver can only rely on information feeds from far up ahead, and there's little advantage to being able to see with the naked eye. Large windows would probably make it less safe in the event of flying debris too. It makes me wonder why not get rid of them all together and make the cabin like a tank. To g…

It's not always going to be running at top speed.

Re: China unveils 600 kph maglev train prototype

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Post by melling »

GorgeRonde wrote: post #11
tty2300 wrote: post #2

I really wish we had high speed rail in Australia. I'd pick a 600km/h train over a plane any day.

High speed train works well in France (and it's just 300km/h) because the country is small. Australia is huge. And so is the US. This would make sense along coasts though but you wouldn't be able to cross the country from sea to sea in a few hours of course. What's good with trains is that you can hop in at the very last moment (when the bell rings, happened to me a couple times) and the train stops in the center of…

High-speed rail also works well in China.

It’s the same size as the United States, which is about the size of Australia. There are only 25 million people in Australia though.

Re: China unveils 600 kph maglev train prototype

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Post by adamlett »

zeristor wrote: post #31

At these high velocities air resistance becomes a huge problem, making it impracticable. Wasn't this the main reason for putting very fast trains through evacuated tubes, my copy of the Usborne Book of the Future had this in seventies. Although Musk had a go at reviving it, the ideas Hyperloop has been based on have been around for ages.

There's rumours of a vehicle that has somehow overcome the problem of air resistance and is able to go faster even than this train: "The Aeroplane". Maybe you've heard of it?

Re: China unveils 600 kph maglev train prototype

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Post by simion314 »

christkv wrote: post #44
ForHackernews wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I don’t understand the apologists either. This is not a lovely democratic state it’s probably histories most successful authoritarian gangster state in modern history. A future with an ascendant China wielding global military power is not going to be nice for anyone.

And to fix that let's do what ?

a) spy on our citizens, on our alleys, use demagogy, propaganda and anti-science

b) do what we want others to do and we say we do

c) find a reason and just attack them(or similar shit), put our preferred government

Re: China unveils 600 kph maglev train prototype

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Post by mlang23 »

theyinwhy wrote: post #21
[deleted] wrote: post #10

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That's because DB is really bad. Everyone in Europe knows how bad DB is. It has nothing to do with high speed trains.

Oh yeah, DB is indeed extremely bad. Not really related to high speed trains, but I was relying on assistance to switch trains in germany three times (I am blind), and in all cases, nobody showed up despite me registering a day in advance. In Austria, where I come from, I have been forgotten about exactly once in my whole life. Does tell you something about how well organized the germans apparently are.

Re: China unveils 600 kph maglev train prototype

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Post by christkv »

mlang23 wrote: post #41
christkv wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course it’s propaganda the shocking thing is not that they are pushing for a China is bad story. It’s that they pretended it was not happening for the last decades eroding industries and blue collar jobs putting us in today’s situation where a totalitarian state governs most electronics manufacturing of the world including most of the supply chain.

I find it particularily morbid that both countries that seemingly fight over the tech leadership on thsi planet both have the death penalty. Makes it hard to make out the moral winner watching from afar :-( Also, given all the bad spying rep the US has, I am really not sure what is better: a US phone or a China phone... Both seem a very good way to get fucked over.

Yeah definitively, the US is no angel that's for sure but its still aligned with democratic values (at least for now).
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