America is turning against facial-recognition software
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Re: America is turning against facial-recognition software
#2Good. This kind of software is a mirror to the data fed into it. People on the edges of society (that the people making the mirror might either intentionally or accidentally ignore) will get fucked over tremendously by this technology. We should put a complete ban on it. Even if it means gimping my photo organization programs.
Re: America is turning against facial-recognition software
#3This has been debated extensively on HN (and is still being debated actively), but all I hope is that people realise sooner or later that the level of safety you can acquire in a society is inversely related to the level of privacy individuals can have.
What I personally hope for is that people achieve a balance between safety and privacy.
Re: America is turning against facial-recognition software
#4Good. This kind of software is a mirror to the data fed into it. People on the edges of society (that the people making the mirror might either intentionally or accidentally ignore) will get fucked over tremendously by this technology. We should put a complete ban on it. Even if it means gimping my photo organization programs.
Just so I have good arguments when talking to someone about this specific point, can you or someone else please go into more detail on why this will happen?
Re: America is turning against facial-recognition software
#5This has been debated extensively on HN (and is still being debated actively), but all I hope is that people realise sooner or later that the level of safety you can acquire in a society is inversely related to the level of privacy individuals can have. What I personally hope for is that people achieve a balance between safety and privacy.
Nouvelle idea: maybe we should just lock people up who violate people's safety instead of taking away everyone privacy ;-)
Re: America is turning against facial-recognition software
#6This has been debated extensively on HN (and is still being debated actively), but all I hope is that people realise sooner or later that the level of safety you can acquire in a society is inversely related to the level of privacy individuals can have. What I personally hope for is that people achieve a balance between safety and privacy.
Nouvelle idea: maybe we should just lock people up who violate people's safety instead of taking away everyone privacy ;-)
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Re: America is turning against facial-recognition software
#7This has been debated extensively on HN (and is still being debated actively), but all I hope is that people realise sooner or later that the level of safety you can acquire in a society is inversely related to the level of privacy individuals can have. What I personally hope for is that people achieve a balance between safety and privacy.
I ask, safety from what? From citizens or the state? Your statement implies that the freest societies are the least "safe", and the most repressed are the "safest". While you might be able to hinder criminality on the part of citizens with total surveillance, the cost of giving anyone that kind of power is too high.
Relinquishing privacy puts a society on a path where all power accrues to the state, to the detriment of all citizens.
Re: America is turning against facial-recognition software
#8Good. This kind of software is a mirror to the data fed into it. People on the edges of society (that the people making the mirror might either intentionally or accidentally ignore) will get fucked over tremendously by this technology. We should put a complete ban on it. Even if it means gimping my photo organization programs.
Just so I have good arguments when talking to someone about this specific point, can you or someone else please go into more detail on why this will happen?
Not specific to facial recognition but covers it and the deeper issues. It is a thorough yet accessible primer on the many ways bias can creep into these systems:
https://parametric.press/issue-01/the-myth-of-the-impartial-...
Re: America is turning against facial-recognition software
#9This has been debated extensively on HN (and is still being debated actively), but all I hope is that people realise sooner or later that the level of safety you can acquire in a society is inversely related to the level of privacy individuals can have. What I personally hope for is that people achieve a balance between safety and privacy.
when you talking about balance, you must associate a timeframe with it. the amount of safety you get by sacrificing a single unit of privacy can be changed through technological advancement.
Re: America is turning against facial-recognition software
#10This has been debated extensively on HN (and is still being debated actively), but all I hope is that people realise sooner or later that the level of safety you can acquire in a society is inversely related to the level of privacy individuals can have. What I personally hope for is that people achieve a balance between safety and privacy.
> all I hope is that people realise sooner or later that the level of safety you can acquire in a society is inversely related to the level of privacy individuals can have
What leads you to think that this is always true? Do you not think there are any other solutions to reducing crime other than increasing surveillance?