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Re: To Keep Track of Reddit Conversations Around NYT Articles, We Built a Slack Bot

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Post by anthuman »

ImprovedSilence wrote: post #10

I would wager they are doing the same thing for HN. Also of note, ever since I started coming back here for the first time in several years, I couldn’t help but notice the high percentage of NYT articles posted here. I’m not saying they don’t fit the HN mold/interest bucket, but I was just surprised to see so many headlines from them here, on HN, so regularly. I think NYT is playing a strong grassroots/AstroTurf/soci…

The high percentage of NYT on the internet and especially social media is due to the NYT spending the last few years bullying social media platforms into giving it special treatment.

They aren't playing a "game". They are using their power as the establishment media to force tech companies to serve nytimes' ( and the elite's ) interests.

As the nytimes and other "authoritative" sources get special treatment online, it's going to crush local news and smaller news.

Funny how a few years ago, it was local news and smaller news upstarts ( vice, vox, huffpo, etc ) dominating online and "authoritative" sources struggling to compete. Why compete when you can change the rules to favor yourself. The NYT isn't playing a strong grassroots/AstroTurf/social media game. They tried for the past 15 years and they failed. So they decided to change the rules in their favor. Why compete when you can cheat?

Also, it was pressure from the NYT and other authoritative sources that forced reddit to start censoring. It was NYT and other authoritative sources that forced twitter to censor criticism of privileged journalists. The push for censorship and control online has been spearheaded by the elitists at the "authoritative" source companies.

Re: To Keep Track of Reddit Conversations Around NYT Articles, We Built a Slack Bot

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Post by codyb »

anthuman wrote: post #41
ImprovedSilence wrote: post #10

I would wager they are doing the same thing for HN. Also of note, ever since I started coming back here for the first time in several years, I couldn’t help but notice the high percentage of NYT articles posted here. I’m not saying they don’t fit the HN mold/interest bucket, but I was just surprised to see so many headlines from them here, on HN, so regularly. I think NYT is playing a strong grassroots/AstroTurf/soci…

The high percentage of NYT on the internet and especially social media is due to the NYT spending the last few years bullying social media platforms into giving it special treatment. They aren't playing a "game". They are using their power as the establishment media to force tech companies to serve nytimes' ( and the elite's ) interests. As the nytimes and other "authoritative" sources get special treatment online, i…

Do you have any sources for this bullying? I like the NY Times. I have a feeling watching nearly every newspaper around them collapse or struggle has spurred them to act in creative ways to stay relevant. I'm not saying they're not throwing their weight around, but I'm just not certain what you're referring to and you seem to really really dislike the NY Times.

And I think it's worked personally, and they've brought some great stories to light as of late.

Plus, as a New Yorker, I enjoy the New York section, and probably have some sense of pride in having such an established and premier news outlet so close.

Re: To Keep Track of Reddit Conversations Around NYT Articles, We Built a Slack Bot

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Post by john-radio »

lallysingh wrote: post #3
ForHackernews wrote: post #2

Wait, Google doesn't support Perl?

Who'd voluntarily do so in 2019?

I'm not much of a Perl user, but [its user community](https://techbeacon.com/app-dev-testing/perl-not-dead-it-was-...) is surprisingly strong and enthusiastic (even if they do talk about Python the way the TF2 community talks about Overwatch).

Re: To Keep Track of Reddit Conversations Around NYT Articles, We Built a Slack Bot

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Post by john-radio »

Raphmedia wrote: post #27
whack wrote: post #8

It's interesting how "NYT tracks Reddit conversations" sounds so much less malevolent when you know exactly what they are doing and why. Ie, posting slack links of public Reddit threads so the article authors can see and participate in the resulting discussion.

You can already simply click a domain on reddit and it shows you all the posts that linked it.

...I've been on reddit over 10 years and never noticed that.

Re: To Keep Track of Reddit Conversations Around NYT Articles, We Built a Slack Bot

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Post by gipp »

scarejunba wrote: post #21
ForHackernews wrote: post #2

Wait, Google doesn't support Perl?

Considering they said 'managed services' you can guess that they use Cloud Functions, App Engine or something like that. With Google Cloud Run you could easily do what they wanted, but then you have to have the Docker tooling. Of course if they were using GCE, GKE, or any other way to deploy compute they'd be fine. In this case, because they're using GAE, they have limited language support without doing lots of (to t…

I used to work at the times, they definitely have the docker tooling. Most production stuff runs on GKE. The author of the article has a long-standing affinity for GAE, though, plus it's just a quick maker week project so GAE still makes more sense.

Re: To Keep Track of Reddit Conversations Around NYT Articles, We Built a Slack Bot

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Post by greglindahl »

Coffeewine wrote: post #37
lallysingh wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point. There's probably good money in the "host all the stuff that's old and scary" business.

My org is still writing new code in perl5. The degree to which it's unappealing is, in my opinion, greatly overstated.

Most folks who like complaining about perl5 are doing so because they've worked with some terrible old codebase written in it. Terrible code is terrible code. But well-written perl5 code can be fun to work with.

Re: To Keep Track of Reddit Conversations Around NYT Articles, We Built a Slack Bot

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Post by snowwrestler »

ImprovedSilence wrote: post #10

I would wager they are doing the same thing for HN. Also of note, ever since I started coming back here for the first time in several years, I couldn’t help but notice the high percentage of NYT articles posted here. I’m not saying they don’t fit the HN mold/interest bucket, but I was just surprised to see so many headlines from them here, on HN, so regularly. I think NYT is playing a strong grassroots/AstroTurf/soci…

It's kind of a pedantic point, but this is not really a "New York Times article" the same way a news story by Maggie Haberman is.

This is a post on the blog that the NYT tech and design teams use to talk about their work.

NY Times has a long history of fostering technical innovation. I believe the D3 project originally started as a library at the NY Times for powering their interactive graphics.

Whether or not they use a Slack bot for it, I bet some NYT folks lurk or even participate here on HN.

Re: To Keep Track of Reddit Conversations Around NYT Articles, We Built a Slack Bot

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Post by rconti »

anthuman wrote: post #41
ImprovedSilence wrote: post #10

I would wager they are doing the same thing for HN. Also of note, ever since I started coming back here for the first time in several years, I couldn’t help but notice the high percentage of NYT articles posted here. I’m not saying they don’t fit the HN mold/interest bucket, but I was just surprised to see so many headlines from them here, on HN, so regularly. I think NYT is playing a strong grassroots/AstroTurf/soci…

The high percentage of NYT on the internet and especially social media is due to the NYT spending the last few years bullying social media platforms into giving it special treatment. They aren't playing a "game". They are using their power as the establishment media to force tech companies to serve nytimes' ( and the elite's ) interests. As the nytimes and other "authoritative" sources get special treatment online, i…

I'm also interested in what you consider to be bullying social media platforms into giving them special treatment / using their power to force others to serve their interests.

When I hear this, I think of the equivalent of large beer distributors trying to push retailers to not have tap handles of independent breweries. Or big chip companies paying for shelf space and also to dictate the placement of their competitors. I'm wondering how this works in the news space.

Re: To Keep Track of Reddit Conversations Around NYT Articles, We Built a Slack Bot

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Post by Raphmedia »

john-radio wrote: post #44
Raphmedia wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can already simply click a domain on reddit and it shows you all the posts that linked it.

...I've been on reddit over 10 years and never noticed that.

For example, https://www.reddit.com/domain/ycombinator.com/

Re: To Keep Track of Reddit Conversations Around NYT Articles, We Built a Slack Bot

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Post by A2017U1 »

ImprovedSilence wrote: post #10

I would wager they are doing the same thing for HN. Also of note, ever since I started coming back here for the first time in several years, I couldn’t help but notice the high percentage of NYT articles posted here. I’m not saying they don’t fit the HN mold/interest bucket, but I was just surprised to see so many headlines from them here, on HN, so regularly. I think NYT is playing a strong grassroots/AstroTurf/soci…

Is funny to see this because I've developed sentiment systems that would parse in (somewhat) real-time and get handed over to govt and big business paying for lucrative contracts. You'd be surprised how obscure a forum we'd be mining and selling off.

Some people seem to get that it's happening, but I think very few know the extent.

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