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Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by Zephyreks »

mailslot wrote: post #793
ericabiz wrote: post #708

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I’m not sure where you’re looking, but the XPS 15 starts at $1000. Of course, you’re not going to want that hybrid drive. Dell also has an upcoming Memorial Day sale where they will discount certain models, and the new XPS 15 is due out next month. https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/xps-15/spd/xps-...

I was going to say that the SSD is slower on the XPS, and it is, but it’s close. The storage in the MBP is wicked fast even in the base configuration.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-Pro-15-2018-2-6-...

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Huawei-MateBook-13-i7-8565U-Ge...

Samsung PM981s (and really Samsung SSDs in general) tend to trounce the competition, but IIRC the XPS 13 uses some mediocre SK Hynix SKU.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by Zephyreks »

winrid wrote: post #776
ekianjo wrote: post #555

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If you purchase a Dell developer laptop or any Lenovo Thinkpad you dont have to worry about hardware support for Linux. Works out of the box.

I had to wait three months for Lenovo to replace my X1 Extreme's motherboard because switching to discreet graphics to install Linux bricked it.

Lenovo standard customer support sucks ass. Pay a little more and they route you to IBM support (at least in Canada). Those people are godly. Next business day, go to your home, fix whatever you want, accidental damage, whatever, all covered.

I love those guys.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by cerberusss »

will_crusher wrote: post #533

Wow, people are really salty about Apple. I too wish they would make a better computer, but for now I continue to use them because they are the only machine that I can work on with little fuss of setup and go. I have the 2018 model with the "Keyboard" which has been fine because I use a Bluetooth Mechanical keyboard anyway and a BT Mouse. I have a single cable or "Dongle" that supplies power, 3 displays, 5 USB 3.0 ty…

Thanks. I feel the same. I work at my client as well as in my own office, and when leaving my desk, I often take my laptop with me. The single Thunderbolt cable is fantastic like that.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by marmaduke »

gilbetron wrote: post #968
marmaduke wrote: post #781

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Were drivers a problem? Did you run into any problems with the nvme SSD? I tried booting Opensuse but it couldn’t see the SSD. Maybe I just need to try Ubuntu.

Basically no, but I did this to fix up an intermittent lock up bug: https://medium.com/@agathver/nvidia-gpu-optimus-prime-and-ub... No problems with the nvme ssd that I've noticed. I went with Ubuntu because Dell ships with Ubuntu as an option, so I figured they worked the kinks out :)

thanks for the reply, you inspired me to grab Ubuntu 18.04, put it on a usb key and boot my 5530, but alas it doesn't recognize the NVMe disk. There's a single line from dmesg about remmapping a NVMe disk, but Nothing on fdisk -l.

What version of Ubuntu are you running? Is it produced by Dell or the generic release?

edit nevermind I found a fix: in the BIOS (F2 while booting), I needed to set System Config -> SATA Operation -> AHCI. With that, the nvme is found just fine.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by backpackway »

Switched last year to Lenovo and while the ecosystem around Windows has for sure its issues, it's still night and day. I've been decades on Macs and I lost the interest for computers then. Since I am back to Windows/mainly WSL somehow this interest came back.

Back then, I was smiling at those PC builders with their RGB 'crap' but now I'd love to build my own battlestation with RGB everywhere. The PC ecosystem is more authentic, honest and more about tech.

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by wDcBKgt66V8WDs »

pfranz wrote: post #654
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I have a USB-C only Lenovo (well I guess it has USB-A but I never use it, I'm all in bluetooth/USB-C) and a latest gen Mac Air. I've got a USB-C charging cable for each, a dock at home and at the office that is USB-C (and manages peripherals including monitor). Seriously a "PC" and Mac sharing all the same chargers and docking solutions. This is incredible. I never had a Mac with mag safe so maybe I just don't know w…

When I got my 2017 MBP and was comparing PCs I either wanted Magsafe-like or USB-c (Surface is magsafe-like). I ended up with a Macbook Pro. Late one night a few months after getting it I forgot a charger and ran to Target, then Wal-Mart looking for a USB-C charger and everything was still proprietary chargers. Maybe one of the display units had USB-C charging, but they didn't sell standalone chargers. USB-C had been…

Ha! Totally forgot the Switch is USB-C, I just moved and realized I left both of my chargers in my previous apartment and now both laptops are dying, but I have the Switch!!

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by liability »

rbanffy wrote: post #564
liability wrote: post #452

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There were hints of it even back in the Apple II and Apple III era, both of which released with inadaquate cooling.

The only 8-bit Apple that suffered from inadequate cooling was the III. An average II would never overheat. You could, of course, load your II to a limit it'd fail, but my //e was fairly loaded (320k of RAM, SSC, Grappler, Microsoft Softcard (1 MHz Z-80), AE clock, Disk II and a PAL-M board). The II+ had mostly the same configs, with 64K and a Videx 80-column card in dual-head configuration. Both ran warm-ish for abo…

Actually you're mistaken. Initial Apple II's had poor cooling due to Steve Jobs' opposition to vents on aesthetic grounds. A few months later the case was revised, but the lesson didn't sink in, as evidenced by the infamous Apple III.

> The first production Apple IIs had hand-molded cases; these had visible bubbles and other lumps in them from the imperfect plastic molding process, which was soon switched to machine molding. In addition, the initial case design had no vent openings, causing high heat buildup from the PCB and resulting in the plastic softening and sagging. Apple added vent holes to the case within three months of production; customers with the original case could have them replaced at no charge.

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Post by skoskie »

zrail wrote: post #522
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Replace the battery. I did it last year on my 2012 rMBpro after it have been complaining about servicing the battery for about a year, and while it wasn't a walk in the park, it all worked out great. Tip: there are 2 ways to replace the battery. One is by following the official iFixit etc instructions where you remove absolutely everything before you peel off the battery with acetone. The other is by immediately peel…

Or just take it to the Apple Store and pay them $199 to repair the battery which also gets you an entirely new top case and keyboard (old, original stock)

It was $299 on my 2013. Still worth it though.

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Post by tracker1 »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #505
ericabiz wrote: post #51

We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

> We repair these as part of our business I feel this comment is very misleading, since it looks like you are describing these new 8-core machines, which have been announced literally today and you cannot possibly have any experience of.

Are these using differently designed screens and keyboards from other models from the past N generations?

Re: Apple introduces 8-core MacBook Pro

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Post by collinmanderson »

pier25 wrote: post #545
ericabiz wrote: post #51

We repair these as part of our business, and to be clear, both the keyboards and the screens are failing on these at an alarming rate. iFixit detailed the issues with the screens, which (in Apple's unending quest for "thinness") use a thinner flex cable to connect the display to the rest of the laptop. This thinner cable is prone to breakage, and we are already seeing 2016-2017 MacBook Pros in our shop regularly for…

> If you need a Mac, consider a desktop version (with a SSD!), or stick with the 2015 or older MacBooks. This is what I did. I bought a 15'' 2015 model the day after the 2016 models were announced. I didn't even know about the keyboard problems, but the touchbar, the lack of ports, the price, and the shallow key travel were deal breakers for me. I used it for about a year but the integrated GPU and the 4th gen CPU ra…

Hah. My daily driver is a 2013 13" MBP. :) Works fine.
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