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Re: GitHub Sponsors
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
> visible "this repo receives $500 per month" it would encourage code contribution whilst providing visibility over the health of a project. I fear this might snowball. Many people don't donate if they see a project with very small donations. It goes like this: "well, my contribution would not make any difference anyway"... The reverse is also true: "this guy is OBVIOUSLY doing something right if he gets $500 a month…
It would be really neat if the eventually introduce some type of dependency sharing. Ie, huge project X built on top of Y and Z show that 30% of donations go to Y and Z. If Github can start automatically recognizing dependencies it could also incentivize people to "properly" (whatever that means) share donations.
>If Github can start automatically recognizing dependencies
I think that they already do this for JavaScript, Ruby, and Python dependencies[0]. However I don't think doing it automatically is the way to go, one dependency may be "worth" way more than another, and some dependencies may go undetected (e.g. if I conditionally sneak -lfoo into my LDLIBS somewhere)
[0]: https://github.blog/2017-11-16-introducing-security-alerts-o...
Re: GitHub Sponsors
#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
> visible "this repo receives $500 per month" it would encourage code contribution whilst providing visibility over the health of a project. I fear this might snowball. Many people don't donate if they see a project with very small donations. It goes like this: "well, my contribution would not make any difference anyway"... The reverse is also true: "this guy is OBVIOUSLY doing something right if he gets $500 a month…
Well what I'd like to do is establish a stack of budgets against a project, e.g. Kickstarter Goals. $500 p/m = all hosting and domain costs paid for $750 p/m = we'll use some paid service that makes the service better in some way $1k p/m = we'll reward contributors $250 p/m distributed across those who contributed to PRs but exact distribution determined by repo admins And then to have a budget associated to the lowe…
I'm sure it's possible to put that info in README.md and handle things according to that month's donation amount.
I don't know that a GitHub-run tier system will suit everyone, when a developer (the primary users of GH, of course) could easily just automate the update of the relevant info in the README or some other relevant document in the repo on a cadence that suits the project and the developer.
Re: GitHub Sponsors
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's fine and all. I'm not really involved in that side of things (consuming/producing open source libraries) and I think that side of open source is working fine, albeit it could be better (like most things). What I'm mainly thinking about, is the running infrastructure. The live servers that are serving requests and providing a service to open source developers. Some of these services are just nice to have. Other…
I understand that and that's why I haven't said there's anything wrong with your opinion or that I disagree. Yes, we'd all love to have our tools (repository, package hosting, CIs, ...) both satisfying our needs and be free of whims of for-profit companies. Some of us simply don't care that much as long as what we have now works and I just wanted to append that to the conversation. That's why I only said that your me…
Thanks for clarifying! I do understand what you mean and agree as well.
In the end, different people will have different priorities :)
Re: GitHub Sponsors
#185> To supercharge community funding, GitHub created the GitHub Sponsors Matching Fund, which matches up to $5000 per sponsored developer in their first year of sponsorship. In the first year, GitHub will not charge any fees, so 100% of sponsorships will go to the sponsored developer. In the future, we may charge a nominal processing fee. What's to stop me^Wsomeone else and their friend from sponsoring each other for $…
A fraud conviction.
Re: GitHub Sponsors
#186Hi, I’m Devon the product manager behind GitHub Sponsors. We’re excited to launch the beta program today and learn how we can best serve the community. It’s great to already see the conversation on this thread! We’re eager to hear all of your feedback, and feel free to email me at devonzuegel@github.com as well.
Hello there Devon!
I'd be interested to hear what the main reasons for not either a) building on top of existing open platforms (like OpenCollective) or b) doing your own service but building it open source and as a open platform?
Also, once the one year period is over, how are you planning to setup the fee structure?
Re: GitHub Sponsors
#187> To supercharge community funding, GitHub created the GitHub Sponsors Matching Fund, which matches up to $5000 per sponsored developer in their first year of sponsorship. In the first year, GitHub will not charge any fees, so 100% of sponsorships will go to the sponsored developer. In the future, we may charge a nominal processing fee. What's to stop me^Wsomeone else and their friend from sponsoring each other for $…
Well, that would be fraud and illegal.
Other than that, nothing. What's stopping you from conning an old lady out of her pension?
Re: GitHub Sponsors
#188> To supercharge community funding, GitHub created the GitHub Sponsors Matching Fund, which matches up to $5000 per sponsored developer in their first year of sponsorship. In the first year, GitHub will not charge any fees, so 100% of sponsorships will go to the sponsored developer. In the future, we may charge a nominal processing fee. What's to stop me^Wsomeone else and their friend from sponsoring each other for $…
When joining the waitlist, they ask about a variety of open source projects you've been involved in. I imagine they'll vet what kind of contribution level people did on different repos they claim, or just on open source repos in general.
Re: GitHub Sponsors
#189> To supercharge community funding, GitHub created the GitHub Sponsors Matching Fund, which matches up to $5000 per sponsored developer in their first year of sponsorship. In the first year, GitHub will not charge any fees, so 100% of sponsorships will go to the sponsored developer. In the future, we may charge a nominal processing fee. What's to stop me^Wsomeone else and their friend from sponsoring each other for $…
Well, that would be fraud and illegal. Other than that, nothing. What's stopping you from conning an old lady out of her pension?
Why would it be fraud? We both contribute to open source projects and appreciate the effort that the other contributes.
Re: GitHub Sponsors
#190I think it's a very compelling deal: under the patreon model (company takes a cut to fund the funding mechanism), the "platform tax" is a permanent sore that makes donating feel less good than it could. Am I giving to the cause or am I giving to the platform? An independent zero fee platform run entirely on altruism will always be in the edge of failure, with one of the failure modes being transfer to untrustworthy o…
>GitHub will not charge fees for GitHub Sponsors. And to celebrate the launch, we’ll cover payment processing costs for the first year, too! One-hundred percent of your sponsorship goes to the developer.
My reading is that they're only going to forgo the fees for the first year, and after that it's going to be basically similar to Patreon in terms of where the money goes.